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Ishak Belfodil

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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby midnight » 2013 Jan 04, 20:07

id go for Att , it seems to be too early to five him a yellow there imo , the Cond is already very low and his other attributes are shown in most of his matches (dribbling , bb etc ) i know hes quite irregular
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby dejan678 » 2013 Jun 19, 17:35

his recent form is good(8 goals ) in first season.
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby WesSneCN » 2013 Jun 20, 22:13

Since I didn't follow him at all, can I ask a question?
I would like to make a comparison with FIFA 13 for a moment. EA gave him 68 in speed, and 80 to Icardi. You have 86 to him and 85 to Icardi here in the db. So I would like to ask you if he is really that fast. Is he faster than Icardi. If yes I can't understand why EA made him so slow...
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby jurgens » 2013 Jun 21, 05:37

68 speed, lol. They gave him it cause like konami, they don't bother with a lot of young players stats. Belfodil is FAST. Hes not gonna show his true TS off the ball a lot, but hes really pushing high 80's when he does. I'd say hes a good bit faster than Icardi. Not that Icardi isn't fast, but this guy is rare physically for a big guy, very nimble on his feet and since hes so big, he covers a lot of distance when he gets going. And hes not just fast over distnace like most big guys, he can and does easily burn players in the first few yards.. I've seen really impressive ACC from him.
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby Adrien » 2013 Jun 21, 09:43

Giving him 68 speed means that they never watch him. He always showed great pace eveb in his young age at Lyon B. He was playing mostly as a winger. No coach are enough stupid to put a very slow player as a winger.
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby čale » 2013 Jun 21, 17:40

that 68 is justifiable, because FIFA has a similar development cycle for young players like PES. he has a pretty high Potential ability and giving him a starting value of lets say 83/84 would end up with him having 90+ in a couple of seasons. every stat grows, so actually by looking at his default set you can see even at the beginning what his main strengths and weaknesses will be.
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby Adrien » 2013 Jun 22, 09:33

I find it stupid (rating players like they do with how they will grew up in carrer in game). That's destroying the realism of the game.
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby WesSneCN » 2013 Jun 22, 19:25

čale wrote:that 68 is justifiable, because FIFA has a similar development cycle for young players like PES. he has a pretty high Potential ability and giving him a starting value of lets say 83/84 would end up with him having 90+ in a couple of seasons. every stat grows, so actually by looking at his default set you can see even at the beginning what his main strengths and weaknesses will be.

Rating players thinking about how much they will grow upp in career mode? I don't think so. If so, there would be no young players over 80 on speed, since they will be all 90+ speed. Icardi, Insigne and lot of more players are 80+ by default, and they grow to like 95 in career, and why not Belfodil if he's actually fast? I don't think this is the reason... and what if someone want him on Ultimate Team? he will find a slow player, when he's actually fast...

It's weird also think that they never watched him, because he's getting updated like...every week. They made him strong, good shot, good header, good attack positioning and everything, but he is slow...
I just wanted to know if he's actually fast or not. The only reason is that there are some values that EA rates in an awful way. For example Zanetti is 69 Acceleration with 77 (?) top speed and 73 Stamina. Kolarov is 66 top speed with 77 stamina. Yepes is 40 Stamina (yes...40...) and Messi is 95 Top Speed when Ronaldo and Abate are 94...
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby Epsi » 2013 Jun 23, 01:01

Take in account fifa is a different game with a different engine etc... So stats don't work The same way. Remember fifa doesnt have The dribble speed stat, so their speed on The Ball is just related to their general speed... This explains The really high speed rating for messi for example. As to fifa way of rating players like belfodil, they probably overlook details like his overall pace and prefer to highlight his most 'useful' striker stats like header, shooting, etc...Just different ways of rating anyway ;)
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby WesSneCN » 2013 Jun 23, 18:16

Epsi wrote:Take in account fifa is a different game with a different engine etc... So stats don't work The same way. Remember fifa doesnt have The dribble speed stat, so their speed on The Ball is just related to their general speed... This explains The really high speed rating for messi for example. As to fifa way of rating players like belfodil, they probably overlook details like his overall pace and prefer to highlight his most 'useful' striker stats like header, shooting, etc...Just different ways of rating anyway ;)

No, on FIFA the value "Top Speed" doesn't include Dribble Speed (speed on the ball). Is the value Dribling that includes both Dribble accuracy and Dribble Speed ;)
And btw, I can see on the values up here that Belfodil is really fast both with and without the ball, so he should have been fast in both situations :)
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby čale » 2013 Jun 23, 23:13

Is the value Dribling that includes both Dribble accuracy and Dribble Speed


no it doesn't. i'm playing FIFA since 11 and that wasn't the case.
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby WesSneCN » 2013 Jun 24, 00:10

čale wrote:
Is the value Dribling that includes both Dribble accuracy and Dribble Speed


no it doesn't. i'm playing FIFA since 11 and that wasn't the case.

"Doctor", the creator of the Hybrid Gameplay Patch said that an year ago, talking about FIFA 12. I'm pretty sure he knows what he talks about since he made the best patch out there which revolutionizes the entire gameplay...
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby Roy » 2013 Jun 24, 06:14

FIFA's growth system for physical stats is unrealistic, it's impossible to grow 15+ points for a physical stat, STA maybe, but even that chance is small...
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby WesSneCN » 2013 Jun 24, 22:22

LeMisérable wrote:FIFA's growth system for physical stats is unrealistic, it's impossible to grow 15+ points for a physical stat, STA maybe, but even that chance is small...

Speed is much more unrealistic. A young with 70 on Top Speed could easily be a 90-95 in 3-4 years...
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby interista 10 » 2013 Jul 05, 12:04

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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby midnight » 2013 Jul 17, 01:06

he'll be wearing N 7 next sesaon :
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby Turkiyelmaz » 2013 Aug 05, 01:07

needs update
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby Roy » 2013 Aug 05, 11:35

Turkiyelmaz wrote:needs update


http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7

Read rule 8, might help you some ;)
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Re: Ishak Belfodil

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Re: Ishak Belfodil

Postby Adrien » 2013 Aug 06, 16:07

He has improve a lot, less selfish, much more taking the good choise. And fitting in a team tactics.

Wich positions was he playing ? as in the video he's playing back calling ball in the feet instead of using his body back of the goal as a post player with long balls from his partner.
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