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Héctor Villalba

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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2014 Apr 17, 18:52

I remember it, and it was awesome. What about his technique? Is he this good to deserve yellows? It's something we didn't discuss in the past I think, just asking as he didn't impress me so much at it. Agree in Super Sub card then.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2014 Apr 23, 14:37

For things like that I suggested higger bb, he's a rock and very hard to move.

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Vs. NOB had a amazing match playing as smf in the right side, doing a lot of great dribbles (his da is being amazing lately) -did two great caños- and generating a lot of chances overflowing with his speed constantly, had a great fight with Casco all the match and had to mark him all the match, he had to do a great effort. In 30' of the second half was very tired for run him and was replaced. Probably if he plays as ss without defensive work could be very dangerous..

Vickingo wrote:What about his technique? Is he this good to deserve yellows? It's something we didn't discuss in the past I think, just asking as he didn't impress me so much at it


Yess, is more than decent, isn't like Centurion, Viola or players like those, generally doesn't have problems to dominate a ball, in the previous page there are some examples.

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1 example more, in this game entered from the bench and gave another assistance:

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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2014 Apr 24, 11:40

Yesterday I paid special attention at his 1st touches and I confirmed that it isn't clean at all, not yellows for me, at all really...he's got an ok control most of the times and yesterday had 3 or 4 consecutive bad controls in counterattacks that almost ruined those actions. Then he had a decent match, good speed as always but for me his technique is around 77/78, if he's 81 then how much we should put Correa or Piatti? There's a huge gap between them, at least 10 points i'd say.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2014 Apr 24, 13:08

Imo yesterday not had a good match, was too much imprecise.. sometimes I don't understand him, with his speed has to kick the ball ahead and run, nobody can catch him, but not tries this frequently..

About tech, if you give me time I'll do some matches of him to the next week (my PC back the tuesday aparentrly) and there I can show you with videos..
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2014 Apr 24, 14:21

Well, actually there are awful players that could have great controls sometimes, even an entire match but that doesn't really mean they should have yellow technique. Imo Bastía this tournament had great controls, great passing and overall defensive positioning...but still I wouldn't give him yellow tech/spa just for that. I don't think Villalba could get a yellow value, it's not real part of his style and he's not that good at it...at least as far as I watched him. You can show me 10 examples of different matches where he has clean controls, but still if he has dozens of shit controls, there's no reason to give him such a good value as 81 is...I mean, in game with 81 you can control easily pretty hard balls.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2014 May 08, 16:05

I'm sure of his first touch is good, give me some time and I'll do the videos and I show you some examples in gifs.

He's a daemon in the line, is playing as smf and doing it really very well, now is our player more dangerous practically. Does great dribbles changing the ball of feet constantly (similar to Burrito Martinez in some aspect) and does a very similar movement usually, has the ball on his feets and kick it ahead (generally with his left foot) trying to do a "caño" and usually works, explodes his acc.

Obviously he sometimes decides very bad like in Brasil against Gremio, that we had 2 perfect counter attacks and he waste it, sometimes has to shoot and doesn't do it, is a San Lorenzo problem, our players saving Piatti and sometimes Correa don't shoot.

Also I have to add that does a great defensive sacrifice, not only runs to ahead, helps a lot to Buffarini like a classic smf, keeping the defensive position when the rival team has the ball, good Bauza's work here.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2014 May 08, 16:11

Scaramuso wrote:I'm sure of his first touch is good, give me some time and I'll do the videos and I show you some examples in gifs.


Those gifs are really useful, but imo are more useful entire vids of every action of a match. This is because you can make gifs of great controls and overlook 5 consecutive bad controls or not so clean, that's why sometimes I think gifs aren't 100% trustable. I can show you, I don't know, good traps from Vallés in the same match which look like 83ish and overlook all the rest in other match and that doesn't mean he does need a yellow value, he's a low green value or white one.

Btw I'm not saying he's got a bad technique, at all, he's just mostly average, at least in my eyes but I trust you if you say that...just are my impressions every time I see him.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2014 Aug 07, 13:14

Perfect cross

I've got the impression he doesn't take advantage of all his virtues, sometimess he takes awful decisions or I don't know how to say it...probably I expect a lot more from him.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2014 Aug 11, 15:33

Vickingo wrote:Those gifs are really useful, but imo are more useful entire vids of every action of a match. This is because you can make gifs of great controls and overlook 5 consecutive bad controls or not so clean, that's why sometimes I think gifs aren't 100% trustable. I can show you, I don't know, good traps from Vallés in the same match which look like 83ish and overlook all the rest in other match and that doesn't mean he does need a yellow value, he's a low green value or white one.

Btw I'm not saying he's got a bad technique, at all, he's just mostly average, at least in my eyes but I trust you if you say that...just are my impressions every time I see him.


I understand perfectly and I'm going to post entire videos to show it and fix some thing of the set, in general is a good set and I like it, but I'm sure that deserves higher bb/jump and maybe 1/2 points more in da.

Vickingo wrote:Perfect cross
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I've got the impression he doesn't take advantage of all his virtues, sometimess he takes awful decisions or I don't know how to say it...probably I expect a lot more from him.


Yeah his crosses are good, and with nice swerve, here another one:



And about the rest, I agree, something strange is happening with him, he was playing awesome, going ahead and being unstoppable, but the last two matches (Nacional/Bolivar -in home-) doesn't think and doesn't go to ahead, if he runs is almost imposbile to stop but isn't doing that.

I have to remark his crazy stamina in Bolivia, playing as smf (like all the cup) running madly, to recover the ball and going to ahead to attack, seemed that he was going to die but was keeping running in 3600 mts, was great really.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2014 Sep 08, 15:40

He's playing decidedly bad in attack, 80% of times chooses bad and fails passes of 2 mts, no by accuracy -sometimes can give a decent pass between the lines- if nos because is very accelerated and stupid making decisions, at least lately.. if keeps this level we can consider decrease his att some points.

One good thing to keep the eye: his defensive role, is good at marking and covering Buffarini's back, he recovered a lot of balls by game in his side.

His goal vs. Quilmes:
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2014 Oct 23, 18:25

I had some things in a note and I forgot totally, here are:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=33 tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=45 great da, and bb in the first moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=75

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=95 tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hZo&t=147 bb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=191 nice cross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=282 caño

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=430 nice cross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=479 great quite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=552 tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=562 tech + caño -acc-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59TECF-hZo&t=599 cross



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fytxaXjDOHA&t=115 agi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fytxaXjDOHA&t=139 ts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fytxaXjDOHA&t=185 da

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fytxaXjDOHA&t=314 tech



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=39 tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=84

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=89 balance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=120 caño

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=169 tech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=207 good pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=249

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=296

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=304 nice first touch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=310 tech + caño

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=342 cross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=361 caño

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=383 tech + nice pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-vdT8JEFDc&t=416

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6TeUxs4RvY&t=2211 balance + tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6TeUxs4RvY&t=2530 pivot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6TeUxs4RvY&t=3141 great control

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6TeUxs4RvY&t=3311

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6TeUxs4RvY&t=3603 balance + tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDobzQtA1E&t=1395 ac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDobzQtA1E&t=1587 tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDobzQtA1E&t=2777 tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDobzQtA1E&t=5563 tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDobzQtA1E&t=6437 balance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JAMyiMkMDk&t=9666 tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JAMyiMkMDk&t=10405 balance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiyoVNwsMPs&t=7048 winning in balance against Insua

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOc6LXgPQvA&t=1206

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOc6LXgPQvA&t=3057 trap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOc6LXgPQvA&t=3075

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOc6LXgPQvA&t=3094 tackle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOc6LXgPQvA&t=3802 great outside pass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS1UHUdJGcM&t=6211 balance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wri8stub78&t=6987

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wri8stub78&t=7313

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloVcVTbvsI&t=9415 pivot + tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloVcVTbvsI&t=10375

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloVcVTbvsI&t=10994

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloVcVTbvsI&t=13302

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloVcVTbvsI&t=13620 balance + great speed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloVcVTbvsI&t=14501 balance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloVcVTbvsI&t=14771

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv6n3ai1fwA&t=13394

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv6n3ai1fwA&t=14202 balance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv6n3ai1fwA&t=14398

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqDrBDcnkeI&t=4472

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqDrBDcnkeI&t=5256

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqDrBDcnkeI&t=5382

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balance + good move


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winning in balance against Ponzio


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crazy resp


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insane speed


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balance vs. Doria


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amazing control


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seems that's going to fly


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He's got crazy conditions to be a first level player, world class speed (surely between the faster players in the world with the ball), crazy balance, gifted with the ball (great da and able to do great tricks with it, very good first touch), amazing physical condition (like an athlete), decent at passing (very good crosses) and very young, but this is true:

Vickingo wrote:I've got the impression he doesn't take advantage of all his virtues


Like most of the players that have all this conditions isn't the best thinking and making decisions, or using his skills in the best way... he's enough bad in the last meters, although has a good vision to give the last pass back (has a lot of assists), generally takes stupid decisions or does the typical "1 de más".

Lately we are using him as smf, he can play there by his great stamina and because is good at marking, but there loses danger and is a waste.. as ss is dangerous as hell.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2014 Nov 12, 02:40

He's a totally shadow of the player that was in the cup.. seems that doesn't want play and moves with a lot of paja, really shitty level. Does everything wrong.

If keeps this I suggest 69 att and form 3-4
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2014 Nov 25, 00:30

Scaramuso wrote:If keeps this I suggest 69 att and form 3-4


That's a concrete suggestion, I'm thinking seriously that he's playing bad intentionally to be sold, can't be playing so bad.. more taking in account that 6 months ago was in a great level. He's better at crossing and balance but is not moment for raise nothing, his worse moment
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2014 Dec 11, 12:53



he raised a bit his level the last matches coming from the bench, but this was his worse tournament far away.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2015 Jan 04, 01:24

I've been playing lots of matches with most of AFA teams with PSD stats. And I've got to say that this guy is unstoppable in game with that speed/agi/da...it's incredible how much difference there is between him and the rest of the players playing all with green arrows. That's not real at all, he couldn't even take advantage in this league, he's not even in the top 30 players in the league i'd say and is probably the best player I had to face in game. Something is wrong, probably we hurried up in rate these numbers.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2015 Feb 12, 11:41

Vickingo wrote:I've been playing lots of matches with most of AFA teams with PSD stats. And I've got to say that this guy is unstoppable in game with that speed/agi/da...it's incredible how much difference there is between him and the rest of the players playing all with green arrows. That's not real at all, he couldn't even take advantage in this league, he's not even in the top 30 players in the league i'd say and is probably the best player I had to face in game. Something is wrong, probably we hurried up in rate these numbers.


Indeed, his tech and da aren't special imo, he is overrated in both, his control is shit most of the times as well as his decisions in attack.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2015 Feb 20, 10:38

Vickingo wrote:
Vickingo wrote:I've been playing lots of matches with most of AFA teams with PSD stats. And I've got to say that this guy is unstoppable in game with that speed/agi/da...it's incredible how much difference there is between him and the rest of the players playing all with green arrows. That's not real at all, he couldn't even take advantage in this league, he's not even in the top 30 players in the league i'd say and is probably the best player I had to face in game. Something is wrong, probably we hurried up in rate these numbers.


Indeed, his tech and da aren't special imo, he is overrated in both, his control is shit most of the times as well as his decisions in attack.


I could saying the same over and over again, imo he's hugely overrated with this set, he's so brainless in attack, inofensive, he's just fast...no way I can see that high da (he looks low green's most of the times aside the tricks) and his attack must be very very low, in 60's. Also he's selfish and he doesn't move at all to receive the ball and I repeat he's max 77 in technique as I said before; i don't know, I don't have any luck with this guy...everytime I see him, he's shit or he doesn't play at least decent.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Scaramuso » 2015 Feb 20, 12:49

He showed all these in his first year and a bit more, just decreased his level, that's common in young players (he's only 20), with Correa happened the same.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2015 Feb 20, 13:23

That's why we should be more conservative with these kind of players, set is hugely overrated in game. I'll try some changes and bring up them in here to make him less dangerous in game because he's just unstoppable for any defence in afa.
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Re: Héctor Villalba

Postby Vickingo » 2015 Feb 26, 16:47

Vickingo wrote:I've been playing lots of matches with most of AFA teams with PSD stats. And I've got to say that this guy is unstoppable in game with that speed/agi/da...it's incredible how much difference there is between him and the rest of the players playing all with green arrows. That's not real at all, he couldn't even take advantage in this league, he's not even in the top 30 players in the league i'd say and is probably the best player I had to face in game. Something is wrong, probably we hurried up in rate these numbers.


Vickingo wrote:Indeed, his tech and da aren't special imo, he is overrated in both, his control is shit most of the times as well as his decisions in attack.


I could saying the same over and over again, imo he's hugely overrated with this set, he's so brainless in attack, inofensive, he's just fast...no way I can see that high da (he looks low green's most of the times aside the tricks) and his attack must be very very low, in 60's. Also he's selfish and he doesn't move at all to receive the ball and I repeat he's max 77 in technique as I said before; i don't know, I don't have any luck with this guy...everytime I see him, he's shit or he doesn't play at least decent.


Been playing again some games and I found this more or less to make him competent as in past times but prone to be stupid in attack and not being a speed unstoppable deamon monster as he's with current crazy numbers:

Attack: 65 (-9)
Dribble Accuracy: 77 (-5)
Short Pass Accuracy: 69 (-2)
Short Pass Speed: 68 (-4)
Ball Control: 77 (-4)
Response: 74 (-3)
Top Speed: 85 (-2)
Stamina: 81 (-2)
Form: 3 (-2)
Tenacity: 72 (-6)
Teamwork: 72 (-4)

Still with the rest of numbers in speed/bb/shoting he's a great player to play in the game, with red and yellow arrow he's too damn good even with these decreases.

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