Oriello wrote:Yeah that set looks good.
The DEF I can see him at 75, he was nearly as good as Krchyowiak in his defensive duels/work, more mobile but less spectacular tackling .. the only reservation I would have is that ladder wise many quality DMFs sit on 75, and last season when he filled as DMF for Krycha I recall Iborra being subbed in to tighten things even more and despite having a bit of a volcanic temper he added real immediate steel and shut stuff down - to me it would be good to keep N'zonzi just a touch away from Iborra's 75 rating, DEF btwn 72-74 is all good ... a ATT of 71 and DEF of 74 with the increases in RESP and TW make him one of the better CMF's in Europe, no?
The TW I would go with at least an 84-85..I guess the 86 can be a bit much, but his ability to slide the ball out of defence or midfield was less about accurate passing, but more about working empty spaces well, making himself available, receiving and giving then moving on to continue to keep the triangles alive..I guess maybe in consideration that Sevilla could be a bit out to sea sometimes when defending last season and that he was okay but not great in that defensive coordination - an 83 TW can make sense too...
I watched too many Sevilla matches a few months back, but I was focusing explicitly on Krychowiak, meaning I sometimes fast forwarded till he was in frame but when you watch so many matches in a short period you pick up on some things..I do not have an in-depth overview of N'zonzi (partly cuz he only came in 2015/2016, and when Krycha got injured I lost interest in keeping up with Sevilla [they also stunk away from home] so I've only seen that some of last season and some matches this season)..If I were to be a bit critical, I would say that SPA could bee brought down to 80 and LPA to 77 - he is a safe passer but not overtly penetrating or danger creating.Mr. Houy wrote:I can see 84+ TW actually,the set is a guideline,i am pretty sure you have a better view of him than i do .
Look at Sevilla tactics thread I made a post outlining hos Sevilla behaved. Under Emery he was mostly a CMF, in possession he would shuttle into attack in a 4-2-3-1 often with Banega dropping back from AMF to playmake from deep (they looked like they switched positions) and N'zonzi would use his height to make late runs into the box and be a danger. When defending Sevilla played compact and dropped off (except vs big sides at home where they employed high press) - N'zonzi then would act as DMF partner to Krycgowiak..sometimes the two acted like 3rd and 4th CBs just ahead of the regular CBs. When Krycha got injureed last season for like two months N'zonzi was played in his pure DMF role, Banega and Khrone-Dehli were alternated between CMF (partnered with N'zonzi)/AMF positions in Emery's insistence to play 4-2-3-1.abdou wrote:He is a DMF or CMF ?
And his Height and Weight are right ?
Christiancito wrote:His main position is DMF IMO, and second CMF.
Actually his principal role is that.
antony wrote:when a player joins Atletico, Fixer gives him a +10 boost in stamina (Simeone's garra)
I don't see much difference in size - if anything N'zonzi looks more defined/less body fat than Iborra - would make me think N'zonzi would have to weigh more if both are similar size and I seen no numbers.abdou wrote:You can see here the difference on the weight , Iborra(88kg) look much sizer than Nzonzi , Nzonzi look skinny compared to Iborra.
Fixer wrote:Im too busy looking at his man mound.
Oriello wrote:I don't see much difference in size - if anything N'zonzi looks more defined/less body fat than Iborra - would make me think N'zonzi would have to weigh more if both are similar size and I seen no numbers.abdou wrote:You can see here the difference on the weight , Iborra(88kg) look much sizer than Nzonzi , Nzonzi look skinny compared to Iborra.
I mean Lewandowski in most recent weight reports is ~79 kg at 184/185 cm, he was a super skinny kid at 71kg years ago he still is skinny, like N'zonzi, its just lewa is all muscle - in your previous link it stated N'zonzi was 75kg, less than Lewansowski, but he is more than 10cm taller? I'm pretty sure that was measurements from youth...look here http://www.height-weight-chart.com/604-160.html this woman reports herself at 193 cm and 73 kg, no woman is going to report extra weight, so even with 2kg off do N'zonzi and her look similar?
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