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Neymar

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Mar 19, 01:54

Full Name: Neymar da Silva Santos Júnior
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Re: Neymar

Postby Whoah10115 » 2020 Jan 02, 19:50

That's way crazy^^ Not effective is super exaggerated.
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Re: Neymar

Postby jurgens » 2020 Jan 02, 20:05

It's hyperbole. The guy has been disposed 3.3 a game on average, thats shockingly high. Yes, he completes alot too, but his success rate is really low compared to red dribblers like messi, mbappes is better than his now too.
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Re: Neymar

Postby Elivelton » 2020 Jan 02, 20:28

One of the aspects of this set that i think its questionable? its this high value for DS, im not saying he is not skilled to do that, but he is a player that slows down to do trickery then uses his burst of speed in short spaces and he is indeed a good carrier of the ball, but with 94 that means he is only 5 points behind what would be a "perfect" DS player, and i dont think that is the case for neymar in his whole career? He indeed has fluidity to keep dribbling, slowing down then bursting again with the ball, but he isnt killer in this aspect? I dont know if im explaining well, but even when he needs to use his full speed he just punts it foward and do large dribles, i believe there are better players in this aspect, and neymar shouldnt be a global leader in this aspect.
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Re: Neymar

Postby jurgens » 2020 Jan 02, 20:56

I see your point, but he can run with speed flawlessly when he needs to, and it's an important aspect of his game. I'd say hes one of the best in the world at dribbling with speed when he chooses to do so, but he may do it less over time.
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Re: Neymar

Postby Dío » 2020 Jan 04, 01:57

Still no update in his playing style, nobody cares for new gen eh?
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Re: Neymar

Postby DracoShady » 2020 Jan 04, 23:35

PES Stats Database wrote:Full Name: Neymar da Silva Santos Júnior
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Pass accuracy 95 well deserved...his shot accuracy and ball control via technique could be higher though
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Re: Neymar

Postby snxke » 2020 Jan 07, 23:25

He clearly deserve better in dribble accuracy and technique.
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Re: Neymar

Postby Elivelton » 2020 Jan 13, 05:14

jurgens wrote:I see your point, but he can run with speed flawlessly when he needs to, and it's an important aspect of his game. I'd say hes one of the best in the world at dribbling with speed when he chooses to do so, but he may do it less over time.


I think DS is the hardest atribute to rate but lets look at these videos:

Neymar:
Simple Run
Trickery run

Shoya Nakajima:
Gliding
Same run i posted in his Nakajima topic

Who has the better DS of those two based on these moments? Im leaning towards Nakajima, he just has something "different" when he is carrying the ball, the difference between his off-ball speed and fluidity of his movements while carrying the ball makes me believe this guy should be one of the top DS in the PSD ladder instead of neymar, his ability to move with the ball at his feet even without much trickery is simple but effective and he is even slower than neymar. While neymar with his trickery or without is a decent ball carrier but... is he truly a 90+ DS? isnt he better suited for high 80s DS?

Again, this is a research, Neymar moments are taken from his last match, and Nakajima from 2 different matches.
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Re: Neymar

Postby AdAc » 2020 Jan 13, 17:27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foFYp9r-3go

At min 5:00

Superbe lob assist with his left foot for Mbappé against Monaco

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Re: Neymar

Postby Ocrin » 2020 Jan 13, 17:44

Overall he had a great game against Monaco, he also was the only attacker tracking back. He played mostly like a LMF.
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Re: Neymar

Postby Ocrin » 2020 Jan 15, 22:30

Everyone knew it was impossible. Then came along a fool who didn't know it, and he did it.
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Re: Neymar

Postby snxke » 2020 Jan 16, 00:05

Good match again vs Monaco, great long pass for Mbappe.
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Re: Neymar

Postby Ocrin » 2020 Jan 22, 22:09

From his game today against Reims:


https://streamja.com/0rvW
FK goal.

https://streamja.com/mbEy
Gets surrounded by god knows how many players but very good first touch there.

https://t.co/oy0cDKkFn1
Caption this I guess.
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Re: Neymar

Postby snxke » 2020 Jan 26, 22:25

Great match against Lille with superb skills and goal. His shot technique Clearly need update
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Re: Neymar

Postby Ocrin » 2020 Feb 18, 23:24

He did everything wrong against Dortmund, he and Mbappé were selfish as hell and kept trying to show off. His passing wasn't on point either. His goal might be very important in the second leg though.
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Re: Neymar

Postby 7Jonathan28 » 2020 Feb 19, 10:58

Well...
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Re: Neymar

Postby 7Jonathan28 » 2020 Feb 19, 11:01

Guys, are you really agree about red Short Pass Accuracy? To be honest, I'm strongly disagree, because his biggest assets are DA and tech and those are lower than SPA.
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Re: Neymar

Postby furymaker » 2020 Feb 19, 13:01

i for one disagree with you, plenty of examples of his passing abilities
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Re: Neymar

Postby Whoah10115 » 2020 Feb 19, 15:04

95 is Barf Town.

Absolutely crazy that his passing is above his dribbling.

Literally making up a player.
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Re: Neymar

Postby Adrien » 2020 Feb 19, 20:26

Ocrin wrote:He did everything wrong against Dortmund, he and Mbappé were selfish as hell and kept trying to show off. His passing wasn't on point either. His goal might be very important in the second leg though.


Of course it wasn't a good game for him, he also plays his first game in three week. In the other hand, Tuchel put a squad in wich they were no mieldfield. So tha game building was so slow and without any idea, so he had to come back, and start to go alone with the ball. As well as he's better in a more central role with others players on side, than in a side position with nobody into the center.
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