KeyserSoze wrote:He would score with even more ease if his first touch was more neat and precise when he receives a mid-height cross or a fast short pass. Of course, his good ST helps him to score at times in those moments. But in other instances the first touch shot is not the best option, and since he usually struggles to control the ball when he needs to guide the ball towards a better position to strike the ball to the target, he misses some scoring chances just because of his average Tech. Has anyone considered to lower his Technique even more?
Basilio wrote:I would think the ability to shoot accurately knowing where the goal is regardless of his position is an SA virtue in itself. Players on the pitch don't have the panorama of someone who is seeing the match from above. Knowing where to aim the ball to try to score at any point in the match requires previous acknowledgement of where the net is and has placement panorama virtue as other players with better placement technique wouldn't have been able to place the ball on all those positions as they're acknowledgement of the goal is not at the level of the player in contrast.
Basilio wrote:If you think about it would be unfair that some players with better placement technique but worse placement panorama can produce better shots from the positions the players with better placement panorama can. And this would certainly be the effect of giving low sa values to this kind of player.
Basilio wrote:I think there is a point in Konamis on giving great goal scorers without much high attributes not only good response and attack but good shooting stats.
There is no universe in which att and respect have the impact we would like to on Pes, and it will most likely never be
The way to balance that out is giving inflated shooting stats to these kind of players.It would be not only upsetting to replace this kind of strikers with real life worse ones that are better at Pes because they don't score enough in the simulation if they are given too low saving values, but also unrealistic.
tasmin wrote:I think few values of this set needs to revamp. my suggestions :
response : is there any striker atm better than cavani in this aspect? I don't think so. this guy has a stupendous reaction tbh.I would go a 98 for him.when someone passes him or make a cross no defender is reacting faster than him imo.
passing: I would give him spa>lpa.
shooting : tbh his SA and ST should be higher. there shouldn't be any argument on this. he just can't stop scoring. he is no worse than the players we have on orage and red shooting. I would suggest a orange SA and ST.
Technique : should be on lower yellow values. he is no way a 78 in trapping.
aggression: I would give him 98 without hesitation. always there on the top.
mentality : I would drop his mentality. possibly 77/78. miss out from the game when his team is playing badly or out of possession. he is totally dependent on team build up play. he goes missing when the team is in setback.same incident we see when he plays for NT.
TW:maybe a bit lower value?
tasmin wrote:shooting : tbh his SA and ST should be higher. there shouldn't be any argument on this. he just can't stop scoring. he is no worse than the players we have on orage and red shooting. I would suggest a orange SA and ST. when a player scores stupendous amounts of goals in the league,CL,country for almost 2-3 seasons. its no fluke!
tasmin wrote:what do you mean by his lack of consistency? he doesn't score tap ins , he scores goals from different angles, he scores almost every possible way a sublime finisher can score. his ST is better than lots of strikers in the fucking ladder. there is no way he can be 86. should I give his goal scoring statistics or the all goals he scored
last 2 seasons? or in conmebol qualifier? have u ever watched him tbh?
his pacement isn't anything special?? are u kidding???
or you think he plays like injaghi? the amount of time he actually track back and react with the counter attacking style of play, he joins the attack and scores in a nano or pico second from awkword body positions, some players would dream scoring. you guys rate his ST same as cristiano ronaldo??? ha ha. that actually made my day!!! tbh, on what are u guys living?
Ocrin wrote:Call me crazy, but his ATT is seriously looking like 97.
He's an absolute beast at what he does positioning-wise. Showed insane intelligence to get away from 4 defenders in the box against Rennes and get an attempt (a backheel, which he loves to do), and basically he's been doing this on a regular basis for quite some time now. It's really impressive how he outsmarts every single defender when it comes to marking and positioning.
I don't see anyone better than him in terms of positionning barring CR7. Hell, he's probably on par with him in that aspect.
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