vinnie wrote:i thought about what you've said, and had alot to say about it to explain what i think, but i'll reduce it to the important point, which is you may be right: for the purpose of making a good set that reflects him and the season he just had, then it's probable that i'm going too far, or plainly wrong on this
yeah, he has definitely made his share of terrible errors, but what i see is that his skill is there regardless. He can still be a weak keeper despite having great skills in my opinion. Just how i see Romero as always being a bit lower than his reputation, i see posavec as higher than his reputation. The same things you said about Posavec were said about De Gea- pretty much all of england except maybe 55% of the united fanbase thought De Gea was a laughingstock during his first season, that he was another taibi. Newspapers openly ridiculed De Gea for almost 15 monthes and called for him to be dropped for Lindegaard, and sold in the nearest transfer window.
It is true though that it is very troubling that his parrying is often out of control, but because of his skill i think he can easily adjust this error tendency- because he can usually reach a good position to parry with his hands in a stable and smooth posture due to his diving form, he just does not control his parrying enough as of yet. This could be a lack of wrist strength at the moment. He makes fantastic catches on very tough shots because he can put his hands in the right position, with his body in the right form to stabilize the catch.
I had said in my first post: 89 GKS is too high for his handling ability- but my impression is that it's too low for his skill, and i think his skill will develop so much by next season that these errors hes made will be not nearly as frequent.
sometimes his response really bothers me as well, as he does respond abnormally slowly to shots i think 91 response should save regularly, and this happened about 4-5 times, so not too irregular. but when i see him as a potential 91+ response, it's due to a save like this, which is a fantastic display:
and this is pretty great as well:
and there were three excellent saves against suso at milan.
i'll admit though that he doesn't match this level frequently enough- but my opinion is that that's just form issues. It does bother me though because it happens more frequently than one would accept for an orange response level goalkeeper, in a way that has cost his team soft goals very often. He's given up alot of freekick goals, a few on his near side as well, and often shots that considering the types of traits i've described him as having, by my own reckoning he should save.
so i could be wrong, and i'm glad you challenged this impression i have, but keepers i'm very familiar with like szczesny, or hart, or reina, and the empoli goalkeeper i've become familar with the last few monthes skorupski: they don't impress me like posavec does. As i mentioned, i had no clue about this guy before i had started watching juventus highlights, and the moment from him that caught my eye wasn't even a save- and he let in 4 goals in the game. It's the way Posavec moves to shots that makes me believe he has a really high ceiling for his abilities. This isn't even a save, but i just find the way he moves to shots as very skilled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52-SrXiHSc4&t=2m07s
and the dive that caught my eye in the first place:
Even now i do regard his goalkeeping skill as very erratic, and it's doubtless he had a season that has deserved alot of criticism for various reasons, but while the keepers i named had better seasons, i don't see as much shot-stopping skill from them.
i'm just not as good at judging goalkeepers as i was before as i've not watched nearly as much footage of different goalkeepers as i used to. so i accept that i may be wrong, or too too generous to him.
To compare how i see posavec to a successful goalkeeper in italy this season, i rate skorupski as an 83 def 93-95 response and 87 gks for comparisions sake, skorupski clearly had a far superior season, but for whatever reason i am more impressed by posavec and have the feeling that he has real talent in his goalkeeping skill specifically.
so i regard posavec highly for his talent despite his many mistakes, and very disappointing moments. I don't rate him as highly as i did De Gea in 2011/2012 though, so it probably makes more sense to cram his ability lower than i even rated De Gea for 2011/12, but i was thinking that within a year or two it seems he's going to be a pretty obvious orange GKS, so i was pretty generous, and more forgiving of his mistakes.
the set above is more about expressing how i rate his talent, his potential.. but to reflect his performances over the season you can probably drop response 2 points, GKS quite a few points, maybe as low as 83, but only to reflect his mistakes while keeping the agility and jump, and that would better reflect his vulnerabilities. Another way is to only drop form even another point to 4, while slightly downgrading response to 90. i'm personally behind the second option, but only because i do see that talent in him.
and it's true as well, fulignati seems to be regarded even lower than posavec. but watching the serie a highlights, while there are many keepers at the moment that are much safer, less error prone, or consistent, i think that there's not many keepers with as much skill as posavec or even fulignati. I am much much less sure about fulignati- overall that set could be overrated, but my honest impression is one of being impressed by him as well, and i don't give that regard easily. he looks sturdier and less error prone than posavec, and generally just a good keeper behind a nightmarishly horrible defense.
I won't say the sets should be updated. my real motive is to comment my impression and leave my impression for others to use because i don't anticipate i can return to watch him too often. What happens to the sets is up to you and if in the future he does impress you, my thoughts will be here and you can compare them. if he performs very very well in a season or two we can know at least that it probably isn't a coincidence or fluke. if he doesn't, well then i am just plain wrong- or he could just become another Guiata in the end- a super skilled shotstopper but a liability overall. I will watch him here or there and catch up after seasons to see how he's progressing ( i didn't even know palermo was relegated, so no wonder he's so lowly regarded). In the meantime it's better to go with your own opinion antony, as i'm sure you're more familiar just by seeing him more generally over the year as i've hardly watched any serie a for a long time. I just wanted to leave my thoughts on Posavec as i was really interested about him despite not intending to watch him.
The big problem with him is his mental control of a game; on crosses, corner kicks, he often looks totally out of his depth, and just making poor decisions. He very frequently will go through his own teammates for not much reason at all, and ends up hurting
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