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Cristiano Ronaldo | 03-04 | 06-07 | 07-08 | 10-13 | 13-14 | 15-16 | 16-18

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jul 07, 01:49

2003-2004

Club: Manchester United



Growth type: Early/Lasting

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Ronaldo the Kid: not the smartest player, always diving and a crybaby but he already did those insane stepovers and you could see that was an unshaped diamond with a complete encyclopedia of trickery. - p1rha


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Club: Manchester United



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2007-2008

Club: Manchester United



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2010-2013

Club: Real Madrid


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S15 - Knuckle Shot
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2013-2014

Club: Real Madrid


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2015-2016

Club: Real Madrid


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2016-2018

Club: Real Madrid


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S15 - Knuckle Shot
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Postby jurgens » 2017 Oct 06, 18:28

Yazid wrote:Right. But the guy is renowned as a goalscorer and he scores 50 goals every year and has form 4. If any other player was scoring 50 goals a year they would have form 8.

Messi?
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Postby Yazid » 2017 Oct 07, 09:13

I feel like he should've been form 8 in his best years too.
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Postby Korinov » 2017 Oct 07, 09:31

We've been changing the way we rate Form based on how it influences players' performances and continuity in the game.

There should be just a handful of players with Form 7 or 8 in the entire database, it's a massive game breaker when you couple it with decent stats. It should be reserved for players who have actually been overperforming for a specific amount of time (i.e. playing better than what should be expected from them due to being in the perfect environment for their abilities, or just profiting from the best form of their careers).

It's not the case with Cristiano and Messi.
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Postby Albo7 » 2017 Oct 07, 13:06

Anyways froze the 16-17 set into the database. Made the sole change of making his primal position *SS and removed *SMF (thing that should be done in his current modern set and in his 15-16 set as well imo). Still waiting for Korinov to make the needed changes in the 15-16 set.
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Postby Yazid » 2017 Oct 08, 05:11

Korinov wrote:We've been changing the way we rate Form based on how it influences players' performances and continuity in the game.

There should be just a handful of players with Form 7 or 8 in the entire database, it's a massive game breaker when you couple it with decent stats. It should be reserved for players who have actually been overperforming for a specific amount of time (i.e. playing better than what should be expected from them due to being in the perfect environment for their abilities, or just profiting from the best form of their careers).

It's not the case with Cristiano and Messi.


Yes, I can see why we are getting harsher on form, especially with how we rate certain aspects of players very generously to display what they are capable at their best. I actually think this is a great idea. I was just making the point that it looks strange to see an elite goal scorer putting away 50 goals a season and scoring consistently against many of the best teams from Europe with form 3. I'm just concerned that will end up with a myriad of players with unbelievable stats that are hindered by form.

However, I'm really glad for the explanation to the changes on form here because I didn't notice this before on the forums.
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Postby Korinov » 2018 Feb 24, 18:42

I was going to make an update on the positions thing following the discussion in the modern thread, and looked at the shooting stats, and wondered if his SA evolution should be more linear than this. What I mean is, the "prime" Cristiano of 2010-13 is an unstoppable behemoth, does he really need 89 SA to be correctly replicated? He was a proficient goalscorer of course, but he was also quite wasteful - much more than today. For the sake of set balancing, could something like 86 be enough?

While on the other hand, 2013-14 could sit just at 90, and his current self may deserve something higher.

I'd also take his 2013-14 DS under oranges, perhaps bring his 2015-16 one under yellows as well. He transformation towards the kind of player he is today was already undergoing, and he had already begun to dribble less and less and resort just to one-touch plays most of the time.
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Postby vinnie » 2018 Feb 24, 23:12

i might agree about DS, but i actually think that the 2013-14 Cristiano was when i started to regard him as an incredible shooter accuracy wise. i recall his scoring percentage per shot was getting into the elite territory in the second half of the season. he regressed very slightly in 2016 but improved his movement, and was a smarter, deadlier striker.

regarding 11/12, not sure about shooting accuracy, alot of his misses were mostly because he was shooting from anywhere rather than good positions, therefore 'wasting' alot of shots. he was also still pretty below par regarding shooting technique and scuffed alot of shots.

overall his shooting evolution was very linear simply because he improved so much from what he originally was like, but he did have a few jumps and minor dips in my opinion.
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Postby vinnie » 2018 Jul 10, 20:43

just a comment as a reaction to a comment you made in the neymar thread Fury, something i've had in mind for a while so just something i forgot but wanted to post about.

furymaker wrote: his potential [neymar] could be up there and even better than cr7, but he'll probably never surpass him


if you look at the kind of player cristiano already was at 17, 19, he was actually phenomenal. there's the famous old "quaresma was more talented than cristiano" saying, but there was NEVER any real truth to that. What was true was that quaresma was definitely a tier above cristiano when it came to dribbling, and quaresma was such a mesmerizing, unique player with his trivelas, but look at what cristiano was at 19:

high yellows DA, orange DS, high yellows TS/ACC. VERY intelligent [low yellows attack] when he wasn't playing like he was in a talent show, an excellent crosser, a cannon of a shot, two footed, beautiful high orange technique even at 19, strong, insanely aggressive, and then on top of all that, six feet tall, AND high yellows jump and header ALREADY.

rashford, martial, dembele are all 3 leading young talents in the world today, and cristiano had 97% of each of their best qualities combined in himself alone, and then he has huge advantages surrounding those abilities that are hugely ahead of any of those 3.

Cristiano was always far ahead of quaresma, and when you say neymar could be even better than cristiano, this reminds me of that- i personally don't agree that even if neymar did everything in his career the right way that he could surpass cristiano. cristiano was a pearl of a talent all along, he was just marketed as this world class dribbler when he was elite but noticeably below world class. so people [myself included] paid too much attention to his dribbling when trying to make an opinion about him when what makes cristiano such a genius is how he can do pretty much everything offensively at an elite level, and USES all of these different tools with an unparalleled level of ambition.

just my thoughts reading your comment in the other thread fury, because what i got out of the way you put your comment was that Neymar had or has the potential to pass cristiano's best, but even when cristiano was a semi questionable decision maker at the latter end of his manchester days, he was still staggering player, one that i think the maximum potential of neymar would have barely matched if at all.

just look at what cristiano has become at 33 years old far past his physical peak, but finally tapping into his excellent understanding of football and combining his work ethic and hunger to become some monster of a penalty area presence. i don't think the maximum neymar matches cristiano.
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Postby furymaker » 2018 Jul 13, 23:28

only reason why i said his potential could be up there with cristiano's or even better is because I always thought Neymar's playmaking ability, just understanding of teammate movements, ability to pass, overall vision was kinda obvious in him, but Neymar was always this "potential" guy that could never be, immaturity was a big part of it, not degrading Ronaldo's ability to pass or playmake, but Neymar showed glimpses of incredible potential in passing ability, but never fully tapped into it.

As you said, Cristiano Ronaldo at such a young age did have all the physical abilities one would ever want even in peak of their career, speed that was hardly matched by anyone, incredibly agile and had this great ability to dribble, tricks are just a show off, his speed and close control and intelligence to make most of his speed and given space were his way of getting off players most of the time. Ronaldo had insane ability to change directions and that paired with one of the best long range shots with either foot, he was hell of a player. He is a great crosser, was a good one back then, but at least imo he wasn't showing ability to make deadly through passes from the wings, through defenders or over the top.

Your post is definitely on point and I do agree with it, but I think I wasn't that far off either.
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Postby dakar95 » 2018 Jul 30, 22:53

What about reduce his DS in 2015-2016 era?
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Postby Orm81 » 2019 May 19, 21:06

Why in the set 13-14, stamina is 87, in the set 15-16 stamina is 81, and the set 16-18 is 87? Is a mistake in the set 15-16?

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