Ronaldinho | 2001-2003 | 2003-2006 | 2008-2010 | 2011-2013


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Ronaldinho | 2001-2003 | 2003-2006 | 2008-2010 | 2011-2013

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 12, 21:52

2003-2006

Nickname: "Dinho" | *El Mago de Porto Alegre* | *O Rei* | "Ronnie"

Club: FC Barcelona



Growth type: Early/Lasting

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2001-2003

Nickname: "Dinho" | *El Mago de Porto Alegre* | *O Rei* | "Ronnie"

Club: Paris Saint-Germain



Growth type: Early/Lasting

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2008-2010

Nickname: "Dinho" | *El Mago de Porto Alegre* | *O Rei* | "Ronnie"

Club: AC Milan



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2011-2013

Nickname: "Dinho" | *El Mago de Porto Alegre* | *O Rei* | "Ronnie"

Club: Atletico Mineiro


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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby p1rha » 2009 Jul 19, 22:08

I don't thin DA is the real key for Ronaldinho, imo it's all about agility, that quick body feint that makes his elastico so efective. Players like Figo, Messi or Zidane are real master of close control, more than ronaldinho, wich i would rate at 95~96. Besides, the current version is rated at 93, it's impossible to drop from 98 to 93, it's not a physical stat.

And *outside, of course.
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby Markulur » 2009 Jul 19, 22:37

Nobody can took the ball from his feet but is all for agility? I doubt it a lot. Technically, he was one of the best players of all the times, and it affects Technique and DA of course.

DA of a player can decrease with the time yes. It's not physical, but if you don't trains it, you will have problems to do it. It's not an innate ability.
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby p1rha » 2009 Jul 19, 23:28

i'm just saying 98 is a little too much imo, i play with 96 DA/ Agil. 96 and no one can take the ball from him. Figo has DA 97/ Agil. 83 in my OF and it's a lot easier to take the ball from him. Plus u'll only get that samba style with very high agility, not that the current value is low, but it could be higher imo.
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jul 19, 23:38

His Agility should be higher, but his Dribble Accuracy should not be lower.
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby Markulur » 2009 Jul 20, 00:34

p1rha wrote:i'm just saying 98 is a little too much imo, i play with 96 DA/ Agil. 96 and no one can take the ball from him. Figo has DA 97/ Agil. 83 in my OF and it's a lot easier to take the ball from him. Plus u'll only get that samba style with very high agility, not that the current value is low, but it could be higher imo.

Ronaldinho moved the ball better than Figo with no doubt! For me agility is well rated too. He was more dribble than agility.
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby p1rha » 2009 Jul 20, 01:20

He moved the ball better... ok. But not so close to him, not so precise. From my pov Ronaldinho used more his body feint than controling the ball extremely close to him. I just don't think it's fair to other players, Figo is just an example, but wasn't Zidane's dribble more accurate? Or Hagi?
Besides it will be a bit hard to justify how this version has DA 98 while the actual one has only 93.
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby prosser2k10 » 2009 Jul 26, 15:27

well i dunno wat his ATT should be but he scored 95 in 207 thats pretty good and he created many goals he scored a shed load though but he scored great goals so its more a case of when he had a chance he'd take it and score
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby Rossonero » 2009 Jul 30, 00:25

there is a lot of people bullshiting here!!Ronaldinho had the best technique ever...lets see,did maradona ever controled ball with his back?no...did maradona ever juggle over 4 players?no....did maradona had ball almoast sealed with his foot...?no...and so,ronaldinho deserves 99 for technique...and for DA also
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby p1rha » 2009 Jul 30, 03:24

Rossonero wrote:did maradona ever controled ball with his back?

Actually... yes! There's a friendly game (he's quite old already) were maradona deliberatly controls a long pass with his arse :shock: Not very stylish but funny still.

Rossonero wrote:did maradona ever juggle over 4 players?

Much probably. Anyway, Cafu can do it too. :D

Rossonero wrote:did maradona had ball almoast sealed with his foot...?

Are u kidding?
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby lucas2491 » 2009 Jul 30, 05:58

p1rha wrote:
Rossonero wrote:did maradona ever juggle over 4 players?

Much probably. Anyway, Cafu can do it too. :D


I know this doesn't probe anything, buy I found it funny :D

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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby Classical » 2009 Jul 30, 08:16

about that picture, I believe he scored twice in that game, being the result 2-0
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby prosser2k10 » 2009 Jul 30, 14:34

Rossonero wrote:did maradona ever juggle over 4 players?


ive seen him beat 8 in some runs and he often beats 5,6 fuck 4 to maradona thats childs level he was really unstoppable and about that pic guys if its the semi final of 86 against belgium ye he scored both goals in that game both against england n set up 1 or 2 in the final ;)
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby Rossonero » 2009 Jul 30, 14:36

p1rha wrote:
Rossonero wrote:did maradona ever controled ball with his back?

Actually... yes! There's a friendly game (he's quite old already) were maradona deliberatly controls a long pass with his arse :shock: Not very stylish but funny still.

I dont think he didi it like ronaldinho....


Rossonero wrote:did maradona ever juggle over 4 players?

Much probably. Anyway, Cafu can do it too. :D

but not like ronaldinho against bilbao....nobody can except him....

Rossonero wrote:did maradona had ball almoast sealed with his foot...?

Are u kidding?


i think this is clear....
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby prosser2k10 » 2009 Jul 30, 14:57

Rossonero wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOK0nUpAdMI&feature=fvst :lol:

good

better ;)
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby p1rha » 2009 Jul 30, 14:59

Man what kind if argument is that? Think, everyone has seen everything about Ronaldinho. Maybe u should see something about Maradona.
U can't emulate trickery with DA, otherwise C. Ronaldo would be in the reds!
And again, what i find truly amazing about his dribble it's his body movements, he was so agile that he could twist and bend in a exquisite way.

Nice video Prosec, but there's even better.
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby prosser2k10 » 2009 Jul 30, 15:12

p1rha wrote:Man what kind if argument is that? Think, everyone has seen everything about Ronaldinho. Maybe u should see something about Maradona.
U can't emulate trickery with DA, otherwise C. Ronaldo would be in the reds!
And again, what i find truly amazing about his dribble it's his body movements, he was so agile that he could twist and bend in a exquisite way.

Nice video Prosec, but there's even better.

no way is there better :shock: send me the link for it please m8 8-)
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby brondbylove » 2009 Jul 30, 15:22

Classical wrote:about that picture, I believe he scored twice in that game, being the result 2-0


I think you are referring to the semifinal in the 1986 World Cup where Belgium and Argentina clashed in the semis. But the picture is a bit older, from another encounter between the two teams. The Belgian kit is from before '86, I believe.

EDIT: No doubt about it, check the Belgian kits in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUywNX9sN00
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby p1rha » 2009 Jul 30, 16:18

lucas2491 wrote:
p1rha wrote:
Rossonero wrote:did maradona ever juggle over 4 players?

Much probably. Anyway, Cafu can do it too. :D


I know this doesn't probe anything, buy I found it funny :D

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This picture is amazing, it's like if Maradona was the indomable bull ready to take on the oponents who are the "forcados" (i don't know how to translate, but the foracados r the guys who grab the bull with bare hands).
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Re: RONALDINHO Gaucho | 2003-2005

Postby Sekularac » 2009 Jul 31, 07:41

I have this Ronaldinho in my OF(Barcelona Classic), but when controling him I don't feel like being able to do that alien stuff he was doing in that period. I can't propose any number at the moment(maybe AGILITY increase), but I feel he can be emulated better than this.
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