László Kubala | 1951-1956

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László Kubala | 1951-1956

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 10, 18:07

Name: László Kubala Stecz
Club: FC Barcelona

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Team-----------Seasons - Matches - Goals - Goals per Match
Ganz Torna-------- 1944 -----------9 -----2 -----0.22
Ferencváros------- 1945-1946 ----49 ----33 ----0.67
Bratislava ---------1946-1948----- 36 ----15---- 0.42
Vasas SC ----------1948-1949 -----20 ---10 ----0.50
Pro Patria Calcio-- 1949-1950
FC Barcelona ------1951-1962 -----186 --133 ---0.71
Espanyol------------ 1962-1965 ----29 ---7 -----0.24
FC Zurich -----------1965-1967 ----1----- 0 -----0.00
Toronto Falcons ----1967 ----------19---- 5 -----0.26

TOTAL -----------1944-1967 ----349 --205 ---0.59

FC Barcelona

Kubala signed for CF Barcelona on June 15, 1950 and as part of the deal Ferdinand Daučík also became the FC Barcelona coach. However the ban imposed on Kubala was still in place and he did not make his La Liga debut until 1951. However he was permitted to play friendlies and in two consecutive games against Frankfurter S.V., which FC Barcelona won 4-1 and 10-4, he scored six goals and set-up another five. He also played in the Copa del Generalísimo and helped the club win the trophy in 1951.

In his first season in Primera División, 1951-52, Kubala scored 26 goals in 19 games. This included 7 goals in a 9-0 win over Sporting de Gijón, 5 against Celta de Vigo and hat-tricks against Sevilla CF and Racing de Santander. He also scored in the Copa final as CF Barcelona beat Valencia CF 4-2. This season proved to be one of the clubs most successful. Coach Daucik and Kubala, together with players like Emilio Aldecoa, Velasco, Joan Segarra and Ramallets, inspired the team to win five different trophies including La Liga, the Copa del Generalisimo, the Copa Latina and the Copa Eva Duarte. Kubala missed much of the 1952/53 season after contracting tuberculosis, which threatened to end his playing career. However he made a miraculous recovery and returned to help CF Barcelona retain both La Liga and the Copa del Generalísimo. He also scored again in the Copa final win, a 2-1 win over Athletic Bilbao.

In 1958 Kubala persuaded two fellow Hungarian refugees, Sándor Kocsis and Zoltán Czibor to join him at CF Barcelona and together with a young Luis Suárez and Evaristo, they formed the nucleus of the team that won a La Liga/Copa del Generalísimo double in 1959 and a La Liga/Fairs Cup double in 1960. However Kubala found himself out of favour with coach Helenio Herrera and lost his place in the team. As a result he missed the 1960 European Cup semi-final against Real Madrid which CF Barcelona lost 6-2 on aggregate. The result saw Herrera lose his job and Kubala restored to the team. In the 1961 European Cup, CF Barcelona became the first club to beat Real Madrid in the competition. Inspired by Kubala they won 4-3 on aggregate and subsequently reached the final were they lost to SL Benfica 3-2. Kubala briefly retired as a player in 1961 and initially became a youth coach at CF Barcelona before becoming coach of the senior team for the 1962/63 season. However after losing a Fairs Cup game to Red Star Belgrade he was dismissed.

International career

Kubala played for three different international teams - Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Spain. While playing with ŠK Slovan Bratislava, he played 6 times and scored 4 goals for Czechoslovakia between 1946 and 1947. After returning to Budapest in 1948, he played 3 games for Hungary but failed to score. After adopting Spanish nationality he played 19 times and scored 11 goals for Spain between 1953 and 1961. The highlight of his international career was a hat-trick for Spain against Turkey in 3-0 win in November 1957. Despite playing for three different countries, Kubala never played in the finals of a major international tournament. He was included in the Spain squad for the 1962 World Cup but, along with Alfredo Di Stefano, he did not play due to injury.

As well as playing for three different international teams, Kubala also played for both a Europe XI and the Catalan XI. On October 21, 1953, England played a Europe XI at Wembley Stadium to celebrate the 90th anniversary of the FA and Kubala scored twice in the 4-4 draw. He also played 4 games and scored 4 times for the Catalan XI. On January 26, 1955 in a game against Bologna at Les Corts, he was joined by guest player Alfredo Di Stefano. The Catalan XI won 6-2 with two goals from Kubala and one from Di Stefano. His last game for the Catalan XI was his own testimonial on March 4, 1993 at the Montjuïc Stadium against an International XI. He played the opening ten minutes of the game.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... opup&ino=9

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2002/may ... nglanville

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.ph ... lao-Kubala

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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby sergi_16 » 2011 Jul 20, 11:43

Xyder wrote:
sergi_16 wrote:It was the first player to throw over the barrier (FKA)
FKA: 99~96


Are you fuckin' kiddin' us?


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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby Xyder » 2011 Jul 26, 15:27

Well, I was harsh with you, but do you really read your post? It's no sense, FKA is the ability to put the ball away from the keeper, it helps to surpass the barrier, but do you really think he was better than, for example, Mihajlovic? A player who scored a hat-trick only throwing FKs?
If you said, when Kubala throws the ball, always surpass the barrier and the ball was always near to come into the net, he never throwed a bad FK. Could be a better argument for your suggerence, but it never was in this way. He's nice rated yet.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby e-server » 2011 Sep 29, 13:10

Messi just equaled his number of goals for Barca. apparently, Kubala was the complete athlete. fast, strong, good passer, good shooter, free-kick taker, good dribbler, good header of the ball. I am gonna watch the vid now to see if those stats make some sense.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby Mwakka » 2011 Sep 29, 17:31

Kubala was Barca's own Di Stefano. The Camp Nou was built so cules could watch this guy play.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby mcmattie » 2011 Oct 27, 17:34

Aren't these stats a teeny tiny bit over the top? These stats make him as good as, or even better than, Cruijff! :shock:
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby jurgens » 2011 Oct 27, 17:39

Cruyff stats are much more over the top if you ask me, kubala is comparable to him with ease, one of the best ever.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby mcmattie » 2011 Oct 27, 17:48

Cruijff is considered one of the (if not the) best European football player of all time. He's world famous. You always hear about him. If people speak of the best European players ever, they speak of Cruijff, Zidane, Beckenbauer, Di Stefano, Puskas, Platini, Eusebio, Best and even Messi. I never hear about this Kubala. He may be one of the best players for Barcelona, but that doesn't mean at all he's one of the best players ever... but these stats do make him that.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby Brezza » 2011 Oct 27, 22:35

Not saying these stats are spot on perfect but just because you haven't heard about a him isn't really an argument... He is very highly regarded player in world football at the time not just for Barcelona. He was voted in the top 20 European players ever by IFFHS'Century Elections voted 2nd best player in Spanish league football history 20th Century even above Puskas. The reason he isn't too well known is that he was overshadowed by Di Stefano and the all conquering European cup winning Madrid side of that Era.

He was basically Barcelona's answer to Di Stefano, an Incredible technical all round player and his goal record speaks for itself. Barcelona abandoned the old Les Corts to build the Nou camp just so more people could see him play.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby Raúl-7 » 2012 Aug 04, 15:51

Please add WF as secondary position as he played quite often as a wing forward, for example in the European Cup final 1961!
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby Brezza » 2012 Aug 04, 17:12

As good as he was, I don't think he was this spectacular in terms of agility and DS. Lovely technique but kinda dwelled on the ball as well.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby Korinov » 2012 Aug 04, 17:27

Set is completely blown out of proportion.

Kubala was a decently fast player (specially in terms of Acc) with impressive technique, but these stats (as with many other classics) are just ridiculous. I'd like to highlight Brezza's point about AGI... a red value? Who gave him that? Kubala was exactly the opposite... strong build for his time, wide shoulders and legs. Take a look at any video of his and you'll see him withstanding pressue and tackles with ease. But he wasn't specially agile. I wouldn't say he was much more agile than Hidegkuti, whom I've just rated at 78... low yellows for Kubala at best, really. Very little quick turning and sudden movements or changes of direction. I'd put him level with Stoichkov (82), or even lower (81 maybe).

Balance is also overhyped... I mean he was strong for his time, but I wouldn't say much stronger than Di Stefano (well rated here at 80). 83 would be ok for Kubala. TS/Acc could come down a point each. Not sure about Dribble Speed but nothing higher than mid yellows IMO. Pass speed and shot power also need some adjustments.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby rycarell » 2012 Aug 10, 18:20

Korinov wrote:Set is completely blown out of proportion.

Kubala was a decently fast player (specially in terms of Acc) with impressive technique, but these stats (as with many other classics) are just ridiculous. I'd like to highlight Brezza's point about AGI... a red value? Who gave him that? Kubala was exactly the opposite... strong build for his time, wide shoulders and legs. Take a look at any video of his and you'll see him withstanding pressue and tackles with ease. But he wasn't specially agile. I wouldn't say he was much more agile than Hidegkuti, whom I've just rated at 78... low yellows for Kubala at best, really. Very little quick turning and sudden movements or changes of direction. I'd put him level with Stoichkov (82), or even lower (81 maybe).

Balance is also overhyped... I mean he was strong for his time, but I wouldn't say much stronger than Di Stefano (well rated here at 80). 83 would be ok for Kubala. TS/Acc could come down a point each. Not sure about Dribble Speed but nothing higher than mid yellows IMO. Pass speed and shot power also need some adjustments.

I agree what you say of the agility But not so much in the rest
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby Korinov » 2012 Aug 26, 13:24

What I've been using lately:

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Attack: 95
Defence: 55
Balance: 85
Stamina: 86
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 87
Response: 90
Agility: 81
Dribble Accuracy: 97
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 86
Short Pass Speed: 75
Long Pass Accuracy: 87
Long Pass Speed: 76
Shot Accuracy: 90
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 93
Free Kick Accuracy: 93
Curling: 95
Header: 88
Jump: 77
Technique: 96
Aggression: 88
Mentality: 85
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 84

Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 6


Still some doubts about passing, his cross attempts were usually either very very lobbish or just plainly slow (could be on whites honestly) but in terms of accuracy he was probably a better crosser than ground passer. I've also gone for green DS since, at least in the (limited) footage I have, he doesn't seem like a really quick player on the ball. His impressive close control, technique and body strenght were his main weapons in terms of dribbling, either tricking opponents, shielding the ball pretty well against pressure and tackles... also had a pretty good burst capacity, but not much agility nor speed.

Thoughts? At least it feels much better than what we currently have IMO.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby Yazid » 2012 Aug 26, 13:58

DA - 97? Don't you think that's a tad high considering cruyff's placement on 96?
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby Korinov » 2012 Aug 26, 14:14

Don't think Cruyff was really over Kubala in terms of close control, DS and AGI are different matters though.
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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby blumbas » 2012 Sep 03, 18:17

Where is his new set?? This set is not good. Must be updated.
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Re: László KUBALA | 1951-1956

Postby Korinov » 2012 Sep 03, 20:29

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Re: Ladislao KUBALA | 1954-1955

Postby PIPA23 » 2015 Apr 21, 02:41

mr paul wrote:This one multi-ethnical mo fo :D


you should add Czechoslovak nationality as well...as he represented that country as well... + Spain as he played for their NT as well...

But all in all, Ladislav Kubala was more Slovak than Hungarian... He was born to Slovak father KUBALA is slovak name + Slovak - Polish mother STETZ is Polish surname....his parents came from Bratislava, they were part of Slovak minority who at that time worked and lived in Budapest, as many Slovaks did, building the town... He stayed in history as Hungarian, but the name Kubala is Slovak surname.. his woman was Slovakian as well..

he played more for Czechoslovakia than Hungary NT... here is a slovak article about him, in words of his good friend Ján Mitošinka, who at the time Kubala was coaching Barcelona football players, he was coach of Barcelona hockey team: http://www.czsk.net/svet/clanky/osobnosti/kubala.html
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Re: László Kubala | 1951-1956

Postby Eusébio » 2016 Jan 24, 16:36

What about his DEF? Isn't that little too high for his era of playing also stamina could go down on 83/84, I don't see Kubala on level with Rummenigge or even just point less from Cruyff.. whose movements and circulation on the field were been much more pronounced. Also I'm not sure about such a high RES value, that makes him a bit poacher type of player what he surely wasn't been. He wasn't too close center of the box, more dangerous he performed from deep of the field with quick movements and good understanding with teammates.. I think he should be around 84/85 value for max..
In general, RES value for all players are pretty overrated here on the board..
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Re: László Kubala | 1951-1956

Postby Moysís » 2016 Jul 12, 22:05

Well, I think this set is obviously in old standards of ratings, surely he should be updated..
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