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Walter Kannemann

Postby PES Stats Database » 2012 Jul 12, 19:33

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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 May 13, 01:06

Okey, then, when you see the videos, you will see he is fast, he has a "tranco" rare, for his height and appears to be slow, but not is, Rarely he lost in speed, is faster than Cetto and Alvarado.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Jun 11, 11:18

Yesterday had a really great game, showed crazy speed on the ball...i mean (+85?) and ran the whole match, his stamina is really good though. Christian had reason about his speed, also he's pretty strong and hard to pull down.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Jun 26, 19:42

The player with more "huevos" in the worldImage



Look the DS in 0:40.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Jul 30, 23:23

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Name: Walter Kannemann
Shirt Name: KANNEMANN
Shirt Number: 14
Nationality: Argentinian _arg
Height: 186 cm
Weight: 80 kg
Age: 22 (14/04/1991)
Foot: L
Side: L
Positions: SB★, CB

Attack: he improved a lot in this aspect, with Caruso rarely cross the midfield, but was improving day by day, today goes constantly and with criteria to attack, reaches the back of the court (llega al fondo) to pull the center, inclusive go to the area to head like a forward and also is very dangerous in the area rival (has 3 goals); some examples:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=J2O86E6z5fE&t=141

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TVNko&t=32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=332


Defence: is impassable, excellent defensive positioning, rarely lose in the 1 vs. 1, covers good the spaces.. is a wall, recommend look the videos (in the end of post).

Dribble Accuracy: Seems rustic for his height, but has a good dribble, usually used the change of foot (cambio de pierna), "la pisa" or the bike; some examples:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ra_VwnTHbO8&t=101

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=268


Passes: his short passes are normal, generaly ensures (asegura) the pass ; his long passes are some better (greatly improved), decent's center with good strong; some examples:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ra_VwnTHbO8&t=19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=135

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=141

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TVNko&t=32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TVNko&t=60


Shot Accuracy: I remember only 1 shot of he to the goal.. this:

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Place Kicking: Never kicks penalties/free kicks for now.

Swerve: His centers have some effect, but not much.

Ball Control: not has a good technique.. 71/2 is ok.

Weak Foot 5-4/4

Jump & Header: Has an impressive jump and header, i don't see a better jumper than he in the league, never loses in the air game, and his header also is perfect, very strong and accuracy; some examples:

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Three jumps & headers in 10 seconds


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ra_VwnTHbO8&t=30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=72

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HbO8&t=156

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 6z5fE&t=37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 6z5fE&t=98

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=271

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=150

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=278

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=325

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... GVs8Q&t=90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=159

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=163

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=122

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=112

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=177

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=190

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=195

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=233

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=243

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=294

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TVNko&t=36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TVNko&t=94

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=114

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=169

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=175

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=178

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=363

Well.. i think that are sufficient examples :mrgreen:


Response: A machine to anticipate, in the air and in the floor, amazing response; some examples:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ra_VwnTHbO8&t=30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=72

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=76

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... THbO8&t=85

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HbO8&t=107

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HbO8&t=118

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HbO8&t=123

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HbO8&t=130

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 6z5fE&t=22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=239

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=241

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... z5fE&t=321

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... GVs8Q&t=42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... GVs8Q&t=94

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=102

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=185

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=198

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=211

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Vs8Q&t=233

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... NTVNko&t=4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... NTVNko&t=8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TVNko&t=19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... TVNko&t=90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=151

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=186

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=206

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=356


Body Balance: Is a rock, Victor & Jorge see it and says the same, is pretty strong and hard to pull down, his rivals end up on the floor; some examples:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=J2O86E6z5fE&t=336

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... GVs8Q&t=34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=237

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VNko&t=332


Speed's: Despite his height and his strong is a fast player; some exmples:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_lr54XH ... page&t=562


Stamina: As Victor said, is very very resistent, never stops of running.

Kicking Power: his "despejes" (when he "revienta" the ball") are very strong: 82/3

Attack/Defence Awareness: 2-3

Form: Is very regular, not much to say..

Tenacity has a big personality/temperament and a incredible "huevos", played in one of the worst moments of the San Lorenzo history and played very good, stand/suported excellently the pressure and fatigue in very hard moments, even scored one of the goals of salvation vs. San Martin de San Juan _arg, is a fighter.

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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Paablito » 2013 Aug 03, 05:22

Well, mother of the post!! Take me about 5 minutes to charge all the post :lol:

I'd be a little more concise about this guy.

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-Attack
I see this guy it as an "adventurer" in attack, i.e, is more that kind of guys when his team attacks he goes and likes to join and does well, but not 100% like a real SB. If you saw the videos/gifs sometimes take the right decision and runs to the free place, but most times intrudes between his teanmates and the ball, hindering the attack.
-Defence
Is clear that their best facet is defensive, or at least to me it is clear. He knows much better when to use the body, intercept the ball or kick away.
-Header Accuracy
Is good to take down the air balls and balls aimed at goal, is difficult to say what value is correct for this guy but im sure in low-mids yellow should be fine.
-Dribble Accuracy/Speed
Had an aceptable dribbling, he likes does good dribbles, but imo don't deserve so high value i'm doubts if he deserves mid or high green.
About his DS is strange, I don't how to say, but imo showed same value in TS than DS.
-Passes
Average/passive passes, nothing special there, haS good ideas, but bad executions. Definitely SPA/LPA>SPS/LPS
-Ball control/Shot Accuracy/Shot Technique/FK/Swerve
He doesn't showed anything special there.
because I'm noticed the ball bounce in his foots and he run.
-Response
Maybe his main virtue in therms of defense and maybe the best responsiveness SB in AFA. Sometimes he abusses of this and commits many fouls or or leaves the team malpositioned, for now I will be conservated with his value.
-Explosive Power
Pufff, his movements are so hard, his actual value could be worse...
-DS/TS
I think this explains everything, constantly makes these runs both with ball and without ball.
http://sia1.subirimagenes.net/img/2013/ ... 673953.gif
-Balance/Stamina
I'm with you:
Body Balance: Is a rock, Victor & Jorge see it and says the same, is pretty strong and hard to pull down, his rivals end up on the floor

I would like see he vs Zapata/Silva/Aquino, thats would be awesome :lol:
-Kicking Power
Actual value looks fine.
-Jump
With Landa there are the best. This is fucking crazy http://sia1.subirimagenes.net/img/2013/ ... 519525.gif
-Tenacity/Mentality
I like the ratio 75/77. He's pair with players like Vangioni/Mas/Cáceres/Litch


So, this my set, but I have some doubts in his ratio's passes. If you want to contribute are welcome.
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Positions: SB★

Nationality: Argentinian
Age: 22 (14/03/1991)

Height: -
Weight: -

Injury Tolerance: A
Foot: L
Side: L

Attack: 66
Defence: 72
Balance: 84
Stamina: 83
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 77
Response: 77
Agility: 72
Dribble Accuracy: 76
Dribble Speed: 79
Short Pass Accuracy: 70
Short Pass Speed: 72
Long Pass Accuracy: 70
Long Pass Speed: 72
Shot Accuracy: 64
Shot Power: 78
Shot Technique: 62
Free Kick Accuracy: 62
Curling: 69
Header: 82
Jump: 85
Technique: 71
Aggression: 74
Mentality: 75
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 77

Condition/Fitness: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 3
Weak Foot Frequency: 3

Attack/Defence Awareness: 2-3
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Aug 03, 06:20

Paablito wrote:-Attack
I see this guy it as an "adventurer" in attack, i.e, is more that kind of guys when his team attacks he goes and likes to join and does well, but not 100% like a real SB. If you saw the videos/gifs sometimes take the right decision and runs to the free place, but most times intrudes between his teanmates and the ball, hindering the attack.


I think that this is ok, but i not like 66.. may be 67/8 (Soto has 66 and Walter is much more offensive)

Paablito wrote:-Defence
Is clear that their best facet is defensive, or at least to me it is clear. He knows much better when to use the body, intercept the ball or kick away.


Agree.

Paablito wrote:-Header Accuracy
Is good to take down the air balls and balls aimed at goal, is difficult to say what value is correct for this guy but im sure in low-mids yellow should be fine.


I agree that, but 82 seems little, for example, is only 1 point up of Pelletieri (81) and between Walter and he is much difference, much more than 1 point.

Paablito wrote:-Dribble Accuracy/Speed
Had an aceptable dribbling, he likes does good dribbles, but imo don't deserve so high value i'm doubts if he deserves mid or high green.
About his DS is strange, I don't how to say, but imo showed same value in TS than DS.


I like 77/8.

Paablito wrote:-Passes
Average/passive passes, nothing special there, haS good ideas, but bad executions. Definitely SPA/LPA>SPS/LPS


I like 70-1/2 in his short passes, but, his long passes are better than this, i not like this value.

Paablito wrote:-Ball control/Shot Accuracy/Shot Technique/FK/Swerve
He doesn't showed anything special there.
because I'm noticed the ball bounce in his foots and he run.


Agree.

Paablito wrote:-Response
Maybe his main virtue in therms of defense and maybe the best responsiveness SB in AFA. Sometimes he abusses of this and commits many fouls or or leaves the team malpositioned, for now I will be conservated with his value.


77 is a good value, but, as you said, probably is the best responsiveness SB in AFA; maybe deserves more.

Paablito wrote:-Explosive Power
Pufff, his movements are so hard, his actual value could be worse...


Agree.

Paablito wrote:-DS/TS
I think this explains everything, constantly makes these runs both with ball and without ball.
http://sia1.subirimagenes.net/img/2013/ ... 673953.gif


Agree 83 in TS, but not 79 in DS..

Vickingo wrote:showed crazy speed on the ball...i mean (+85?)


85 is too much, but, definitely, deserves yellow.

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Paablito wrote:-Balance/Stamina
I'm with you:
Body Balance: Is a rock, Victor & Jorge see it and says the same, is pretty strong and hard to pull down, his rivals end up on the floor

I would like see he vs Zapata/Silva/Aquino, thats would be awesome :lol:/


I see he more strong than Palomino (85); I like the stamina value.

Paablito wrote:-Kicking Power
Actual value looks fine.


Agree.

Paablito wrote:-Jump
With Landa there are the best. This is fucking crazy http://sia1.subirimagenes.net/img/2013/ ... 519525.gif


I have doubts, I will like more opinions here..

Paablito wrote:-Tenacity/Mentality
I like the ratio 75/77. He's pair with players like Vangioni/Mas/Cáceres/Litch


In no way can be green, this guy deserves yellow, also, Vangino/Mas/Cáceres and Litch are outdated, I think that not serve like examples.

Paablito wrote:Positions: SB★


He can play as CB too.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Paablito » 2013 Aug 22, 00:11

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Scaramuso wrote:
Paablito wrote:-Attack
I see this guy it as an "adventurer" in attack, i.e, is more that kind of guys when his team attacks he goes and likes to join and does well, but not 100% like a real SB. If you saw the videos/gifs sometimes take the right decision and runs to the free place, but most times intrudes between his teanmates and the ball, hindering the attack.

I think that this is ok, but i not like 66.. may be 67/8 (Soto has 66 and Walter is much more offensive)
Soto isn't good to compare, he's outdated in some areas :lol: btw "Walter is much more offensive" isn't a real or valid argument for the definition of attack. I said before, imo is like an CB-adventurous that plays as SB, likes join the attack constantly but he intrudes between his teanmates and the ball. With 66 in att and 2 in ATT awareness (84 or something like that in AGG, I got confused on the set I wanted to put 84 not 74) should be fine for now, at least until proven otherwise to what I said


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Paablito wrote:-Header Accuracy: Is good to take down the air balls and balls aimed at goal, is difficult to say what value is correct for this guy but im sure in low-mids yellow should be fine.
I agree that, but 82 seems little, for example, is only 1 point up of Pelletieri (81) and between Walter and he is much difference, much more than 1 point.

Don't see between Pelletieri and Kanneman there is a big difference in this stat, if you look Pelletieri he does nice head-passes or header to try score and does well and imo this value looks fine in both.
Or if you want more examples 82 is the same stat has Balanta/Braghieri/Vergini and I don't see better than Aveldaño.


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Paablito wrote:-Dribble Accuracy/Speed
Had an aceptable dribbling, he likes does good dribbles, but imo don't deserve so high value i'm doubts if he deserves mid or high green.
About his DS is strange, I don't how to say, but imo showed same value in TS than DS.

I like 77/8.
I watched more videos of him and yes, deserves more in TS(85) DS(83/84) and DA(76) and maybe we can add some cards, I don't know.

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Paablito wrote:-Passes
Average/passive passes, nothing special there, haS good ideas, but bad executions. Definitely SPA/LPA>SPS/LPS

I like 70-1/2 in his short passes, but, his long passes are better than this, i not like this value.
I couldn't touch this values for now, maybe for the next update when the tournament finished, Jorge or I, will update him.

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Paablito wrote:-Ball control/Shot Accuracy/Shot Technique/FK/Swerve
He doesn't showed anything special there.
because I'm noticed the ball bounce in his foots and he run.

Agree.
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Paablito wrote:-Response
Maybe his main virtue in therms of defense and maybe the best responsiveness SB in AFA. Sometimes he abusses of this and commits many fouls or or leaves the team malpositioned, for now I will be conservated with his value.

77 is a good value, but, as you said, probably is the best responsiveness SB in AFA; maybe deserves more.
Mmm, what value are you thinking Christian or you got in mind? More than Cubero?

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Scaramuso wrote:
Paablito wrote:-Explosive Power
Pufff, his movements are so hard, his actual value could be worse...

Agree.
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Scaramuso wrote:
Paablito wrote:-DS/TS
I think this explains everything, constantly makes these runs both with ball and without ball.
http://sia1.subirimagenes.net/img/2013/ ... 673953.gif


Agree 83 in TS, but not 79 in DS..

Vickingo wrote:showed crazy speed on the ball...i mean (+85?)

85 is too much, but, definitely, deserves yellow.
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I said before in this post.

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Paablito wrote:-Balance/Stamina
I'm with you:
Body Balance: Is a rock, Victor & Jorge see it and says the same, is pretty strong and hard to pull down, his rivals end up on the floor

I would like see he vs Zapata/Silva/Aquino, thats would be awesome :lol:/

I see he more strong than Palomino (85); I like the stamina value.
You see Palomino as strong as 85?

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Scaramuso wrote:
Paablito wrote:-Kicking Power
Actual value looks fine.

Agree.
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Paablito wrote:-Jump
With Landa there are the best. This is fucking crazy http://sia1.subirimagenes.net/img/2013/ ... 519525.gif

I have doubts, I will like more opinions here..
Me too, bus his jump is crazy, he jumped more than once several players for trying to head.

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Paablito wrote:-Tenacity/Mentality
I like the ratio 75/77. He's pair with players like Vangioni/Mas/Cáceres/Litch

In no way can be green, this guy deserves yellow, also, Vangino/Mas/Cáceres and Litch are outdated, I think that not serve like examples.
I wanna see more minutes of him to try find the correct value. Outdated or no, I find Litch's value ok, maybe the others deserves a drop down in that value.

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Paablito wrote:Positions: SB?


He can play as CB too.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Aug 22, 00:35

Paablito wrote:Soto isn't good to compare, he's outdated in some areas :lol: btw "Walter is much more offensive" isn't a real or valid argument for the definition of attack. I said before, imo is like an CB-adventurous that plays as SB, likes join the attack constantly but he intrudes between his teanmates and the ball. With 66 in att and 2 in ATT awareness (84 or something like that in AGG, I got confused on the set I wanted to put 84 not 74) should be fine for now, at least until proven otherwise to what I said


With is "more offensive" I meant that Walter is much more involved in attack than Soto, a animal in the rival area, much more intelligent, goes to the attack in the minimun chance, reaches the back of the court to pull the center frequently and even sometimes he goes to the area to head like a 9 (vs. Godoy Cruz/Lanus, for example).

Paablito wrote:Don't see between Pelletieri and Kanneman there is a big difference in this stat, if you look Pelletieri he does nice head-passes or header to try score and does well and imo this value looks fine in both.
Or if you want more examples 82 is the same stat has Balanta/Braghieri/Vergini and I don't see better than Aveldaño.


Imo the Kannemann's header has much more strength than Pelletieri and too than Kalinski (both 81), I see a big difference.. anyway, 82 is a good value.

Paablito wrote:I watched more videos of him and yes, deserves more in TS(85) DS(83/84) and DA(76) and maybe we can add some cards, I don't know.


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Paablito wrote:I couldn't touch this values for now, maybe for the next update when the tournament finished, Jorge or I, will update him.


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Paablito wrote:Mmm, what value are you thinking Christian or you got in mind? More than Cubero?


I don't know, I would like to the opinion of Victor or Jorge here :P

Paablito wrote:You see Palomino as strong as 85?


Yes, is one of the few virtues of the poor Palomino, je.

Paablito wrote:Me too, bus his jump is crazy, he jumped more than once several players for trying to head.


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Paablito wrote:I wanna see more minutes of him to try find the correct value. Outdated or no, I find Litch's value ok, maybe the others deserves a drop down in that value.


He supported the pressure in very hard moments, he started playing in a very hard moment of the team and played excellent (look the game vs. Newell's, 2-0 down and still was running, 1-0 down to Godoy Cruz, 1-0 vs. San Martin de SJ) the fans love him for this, is a fighter, never stops running.. no way that deserves less than yellows.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Sep 08, 23:45

Well.. then?

More videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkG69pPs ... lpage#t=92 won jumping in the rival area

Vs. AAAJ:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... lpage#t=18 response (remove with his head)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... lpage#t=34 header

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... lpage#t=40 speed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... lpage#t=86 excellent response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... page#t=110 caño

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... page#t=118 response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... page#t=126 response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... page#t=218 dribble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... page#t=325 speed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... page#t=349 tackle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... page#t=435 jump

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Vs. River:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k07Iaz1n ... page#t=154 win jumping in the rival area

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k07Iaz1n ... page#t=165 good pass, 1 touch

Vs. River (Sudamericana)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... i3s0#t=145 jump + header

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... i3s0#t=168 won jump in the rival area.

Vs. Central (moments ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQseDwJh ... page#t=189 GREAT save

Also, in the first half won in the rival area vs. All the Central's players and Cauteruccio scored a goal with his hand (I not found video)

Imo, deserves orange jump, can pass a full game without lose in the air.. think that I showed enough examples.

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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Paablito » 2013 Sep 09, 03:06

Updated with colaboration of Scaramuso _tick
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby vinnie » 2013 Oct 08, 07:46

what a bad ass player. I love this fullback. he's got all the fundamentals of his position nailed on. Strong, Fast, great leap (just superb athlete when you look at it), reads the game excellently (response, interceptions), smart in attack, aggressive, gives support to open spaces, decent long passer, tidy short passer, bad ass tackler. he really gets the job done. could play for top European teams if I trust my eyes fully. he's got the rare combination in a fullback of being totally beast defensively, while also understanding how to support and attack as a fullback. That's rare. And I don't think I've really seen many fullbacks react as well, or as quickly as he can.

I have a lot of respect for the work you guys did here. I watched all the vids, I believe i'm very much up to speed regarding this player. I think you guys have nailed the general idea of him.

So in that light, I just offer some of my thoughts for consideration.

1) TS should probably be as high as 86.... possibly 87. he certainly covers more ground then the 84 ts players I know, and just looking at him, you see him moving at some blazing speeds when he hits his top speed.
2) RES, it could really go as high as 80-83. I wouldn't want to make him just insanely reactive and all over the place in game. But I would certainly want to represent his unique aggressive game reading. Everything you expect of a high or good res player, you see from him, from chasing players and coming out to confront, to intercepting passes, reacting to loose balls (that one example you post scarausmo is an excellent one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWOOMuj ... lpage#t=86)

Currently I'm looking around and researching patterns of high RES in fullbacks from how Konami like to rate it. Hard to say whether the effect will be too much for a fullback, but theres no denying how fantastic and sharp he is at responding. When I see players like baines at 80... by konami I kind of think... surely something like 83 res is warranted for this guy. it's hard to say about something like res without watching his complete movement.

But it's just not common you see a fullback become this aggressive at closing down and responding.

3) I like the idea around AGI, though I wonder if it's just a little harsh, there are players a lot stiffer and less agile then kannamen around that 70-72 value. I don't think something like 74-75 is wrong for him. he isn't agile, but he does have decent turning speed and mobility. And he isn't to the point of being fairly severely hindered. I respect the value though, just a thought.

4) should there be a difference between lpa and spa? just a slight bump up of lpa to 74/75? and I actually think he's a nice neat passer, though basic, as scarusmo says.

Lastly, regarding att. yeah he's pretty smart, and understands tactically how to play his role. he's not exceptional, but he's good at attacking when theres space, and there seems to tend to be a lot of space as im noticing the afa defends leaving a lot of space. this probably makes it a lot easier for him. I wonder how he would attack against a set attack that's dropped deep and compact. so I wouldn't know what would and wouldn't be deserved in this case. I don't have enough experience of the level of afa attack and defensive discipline. that's why I won't comment about def, as I believe you guys are in the right ballpark with that value and id rather not +/-1 too much. At least, I won't comment right now :)

thanks a lot for showing me this player scarusmo. I really admire him. awesome fullback.

well done on this collaboration paablito and scaramuso :)
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Oct 08, 12:56

Great.. great appreciations, thank you very much for your post and for taking the time to read the comments and see all the videos, I appreciate it.

I like all that you said, althought agi in 71 maybe is fine (I'm not 100% sure).. the rest is disctutible.

I would like your opinion here Victor..
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Oct 20, 16:15

Great match yesterday, imprecise with the ball,but impassable and a almost perfect game in the defensive aspect (wasn't to the attack as usual, was dedicated more of the recovery), maybe not lost any 1 vs. 1.

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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Oct 30, 14:01

Corrected values suggested by vinnie.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby nachogr28 » 2013 Oct 30, 21:22

I'm a little shocked about his TS and BAL stats. Is he really faster than Mauro Zarate?
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby chamakh » 2013 Nov 04, 17:06

Excellent match, was impassable for Boca players. They never could with him.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Nov 04, 17:48

Great two last matches (Lanús, Boca), Yesterday was almost perfect in the defensive aspect, stoping to Martínez all the match. Was impassable like @chamak said, in the offensive aspect not contributed much (yes in the free kicks), was 90% focus in defense.

Look this jumps/headers, if him not deserves orange jump, who?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JClC0ps41Dw&t=547 won vs Ribair + Gigliotti and palo/stick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JClC0ps41Dw&t=765

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JClC0ps41Dw&t=850 near, vs Pérez

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Jump & Header


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Double touch.


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Tackle.


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BB+ Caño.


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nachogr28 wrote:I'm a little shocked about his TS


Well, seems too much, but no, as Vinnie said, covers a great distance with his steps and rarely lose in long distances, if yo can saw the match yesterday, Martínez (90 DS) never couldn't exceeded in speed.

nachogr28 wrote:and BAL stats.


Balance?

nachogr28 wrote: Is he really faster than Mauro Zarate?


Without the ball probably.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby lucashag » 2013 Nov 04, 18:22

What's up with that Aggression value? he was never that offensive minded to deserve 84
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Nov 14, 14:40

lucashag wrote:What's up with that Aggression value? he was never that offensive minded to deserve 84


He's very aggressive. When the team gets the ball "shoots out" to the attack, the game vs. Boca was an exception because he had to focus in the Martinez's mark.
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Re: Walter Kannemann

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Nov 27, 16:02

Vs. Atlético Rafaela: probably his worst game in San Lorenzo, did things really unusual in him, disordered, losing in the mark.. sometimes in the air (nunca pierde aquí).. and too was very near to the red card, awful game in general.

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