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Toni Kroos

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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Kruger13 » 2011 Dec 05, 17:42

@monKevski
Despite of this update, are you still working on the set you mentioned for winter break or not more?

About his defence, i believe that isnt too high, checking ladders it fix to me, and even more based on his display on the pitch. He is mostly an AMF but when he play as CMF in FCBayern and NT, he deserves this value imo.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby s-cobar » 2011 Dec 05, 17:46

I`d go on a higher level with defense, if I see how smart he acts on a CM position, espaecially in ther NT. I think a 63 isn`t too high. otherwise I think it`s one of the best updates Kev has ever done.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Mr. Evans » 2011 Dec 05, 18:58

Was waiting for this update so thanks.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby monKevski » 2011 Dec 06, 10:51

Maybe I was too cautious with the Defence value, but it seems to be a good balance with 78/60, Kroos is still a lot more offensive than Schweinsteiger when he plays on his position. And you have to consider that doesn't act so defensively, when is set as a offensive midfielder and this is his favourite position. The smart action you see might result from a team working with the others and his decent response, in terms of challenges he is still too awful.

Btw, is it possible to give Turning Skills as a card? I don't how it fits to him, because he just moves so quickly, when he is receiving a pass from his teammates.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Fiddy » 2011 Dec 06, 15:46

Yeah agree with Turning Skills, his AGI can go up a point or so aswell ;)
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Kruger13 » 2011 Dec 06, 16:03

Yes, his AGI can go up to 83 like Schweinsteiger, even if i see Toni more agile/fast than his teammate.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby monKevski » 2011 Dec 06, 18:08

If he gets Turning Skills, then the Agility might be too high with 83. I'm fine with 82, considering Schweinsteiger is slightly taller than Kroos.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby jurgens » 2011 Dec 07, 21:51

Turning skills has no effect on agility whatsoever and Kroos has no reason for it.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby monKevski » 2011 Dec 08, 13:50

So what on what does Turning Skills have? In my eyes it improves the ability turn around quicker than without it, so I think it some effect on Agility. But that's not my point, he just does such great turns when receiving a pass. It might depend on a good technique, but I'm not sure.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby jurgens » 2011 Dec 09, 00:40

monKevski wrote:So what on what does Turning Skills have?


Read the description?

It improves precision while executing the Ronaldo chop. The AI will never perform that move unless he had the card assigned. Why do you think players like Messi/aguero don't have the card? Cause they don't use that skill, ever.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Korinov » 2011 Dec 09, 02:37



Video is... not very good, but you can get the idea.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby jurgens » 2011 Dec 09, 03:57

That skill has nothing to do with the pes 2011 card turning skills. As far as I know it's not even in pes 2011 or 12.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Basilio » 2011 Dec 09, 04:11

thats some kind of step on skill if anything
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby monKevski » 2011 Dec 09, 11:05

Sometimes descriptions can be wrong and I don't know what Messi and Agüero have to do with Kroos, I just wanted to know, if this card can be reasonable for him.
But I now think this move Kroos does seems to be reflected in Technique, I noticed it of a player with the same value I was testing yesterday and he made such a move. So the rating in technique is good I think.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby jurgens » 2011 Dec 09, 11:56

Sometimes descriptions can be wrong


Descriptions can be wrong, but hours of playtime from dozens of users confirming what the card is, over the last year isn't. We know what the card is.

and I don't know what Messi and Agüero have to do with Kroos


They don't have anything to do with him. It's called an example. If the card did as you said, then of course players like Messi and Aguero would have it.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby monKevski » 2011 Dec 09, 12:09

I know that most of the description of Konami aren't really accurate and only with our studies we can have the exact meaning of every card. And to be honest, I did not test every card in detail, it also applies to the turning card. I just checked it and it's more an improved turn where the player moves the ball behind his other feet in a smaller way. I haven't looked so close to Messi or Agüero and that's not the point here, but I finally know it isn't a card for Kroos.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Korinov » 2011 Dec 09, 12:33

Damn. I've used so little the 'special skills' in the last two years that I've almost forgotten what some of them are. Sorry for the wrong video. I suppose that's what "Turning Skill" refers to as now (the 'Ronaldo chop'):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiMQzfgXIls
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby jurgens » 2011 Dec 09, 12:36

Yep thats it. The roberto carlos chop really... he was doing it before Ronaldo was even in sporting.
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Feb 02, 13:57

Thinking of an update based mainly in this set (spoiler), but with a little tweaks:

Mainly changes:
DEF: 58 --> 60
TECH: 86 --> 87
And maybe AGI: 84 --> 83 with a DA: 85 --> 86

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Club: FC Bayern Münich
Name: Toni KROOS
Shirt Name: KROOS
Number: 39
Positions: AMF*, CMF, SMF

Nationality: German
Age: 21 (04/01/1990)


Height: 182 cm
Weight: 77 kg
Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B


Attack: 80
Defence: 58
Balance: 78
Stamina: 85
Top Speed: 81
Acceleration: 84
Response: 80
Agility: 84
Dribble Accuracy: 85
Dribble Speed: 83
Short Pass Accuracy: 84
Short Pass Speed: 82
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 84
Shot Accuracy: 77
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 82
Free Kick Accuracy: 82
Curling: 83
Header: 68
Jump: 73
Technique: 86
Aggression: 83
Mentality: 83
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 86

Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 6


PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
P11 – Long Ranger
P18 – Talisman
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S05 - 1-touch play
S06 - Outside Curve


SPECIAL ABILITIES:


* Reaction
* Playmaking
* Passing
* Middle Shooting
* 1-Touch Pass
* Outside


MOTION STYLE:

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 4
Penalty Kick Style: 1


ATTACK / DEFENCE AWARENESS: OFF
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Re: Toni KROOS

Postby Steven Gerrard » 2012 Feb 02, 14:58

Yes ,, I agree with Kruger13 ,,
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