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Wout Brama

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Re: Wout BRAMA

Postby Fides » 2011 Oct 05, 14:41

I wanna suggest:
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TS: 75
ACC: 76/77
RESP: 84/85
TECH: 77
MENT: 87-89 (He would get maybe even higher like this, if he would be playing in a better league).
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Re: Wout BRAMA

Postby FernandoA13 » 2011 Nov 04, 14:58

I feel that Brama TW and MENT should come down.

I feel such a high TW would make other players move more then they do when he has the ball. And he never really has creativity in he's passing, its almost always just a side switch pass. And i feel he's SPS is higher then SPA i suggest: SPA: 79 SPS: 81. I suggest TW: 82.

I would like a MENT decrease because he showed me a lot, that whenever he isnt feeling comfortable he doesnt really have the MENT strenght to fight back in big games. Against smaller opponents he shows it, but not in general when he has a good direct opponent imo last example: Wijnaldum. So a MENT of 82 would be fine imo.
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Re: Wout BRAMA

Postby Fides » 2011 Nov 04, 15:55

You are right about the fact that vs good (especially dynamic) opponents he has a lot of trouble, but honestly I think thats not because of his MENT. In my opinion that more because he simply doesnt have the skills to cope with very dynamic opponents (not fast, not strong, cant force the opponent back by going forward himself, because he sucks in that department). He doesnt have any footballing ability. Well, he is more De Graafschap level, then Twente level if you ask me, but its just his alertness, focus and MENT what keeps him good enough to play as a DM/CM in a top team in NL.
Could you see him play at any top 9 team in the Eredivisie? To be honest I dont. He has a lot of credit for being a fighter, and a local hero in Twente. Also he is one of the rare type of midfielders who can keep his focus solely on defending when he needs to (and he needs to when Adriaanse decides to play with 2 attackers on the midfield haha).
I dont really agree with you on the passing, because I think his passing is quite poor when he is put under pressure (I think it could even be lower). Yet still normally his passes are really safe (because they are "easy smart") and I think its actually a decent ability of him to find his team mates (what should reflect in decent TW, right?), but I agree that 85 is too generous.

Gave him an update. Let me know what you think:)
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Re: Wout BRAMA

Postby FernandoA13 » 2011 Nov 04, 16:10

I understand your point. I do. But i dont know if such a MENT number is valid. But thats just our diffrence in opinion. Its a good update.

Can i just suggest to decrease he's BB ? Any number under 79 would be good imo.
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Re: Wout BRAMA

Postby Fides » 2011 Nov 04, 16:20

Yeah, his BB is not that special but I feel there is some "power" behind his tackles (with his body & sliding) and I am afraid those will become too useless if lowered. But its true that Wijnaldum (who got stronger lately I think, but by no means a strongman) out-muscled him every time. Maybe DEF 1 or 2 up and BB 1 or 2 down a good idea?
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Re: Wout BRAMA

Postby FernandoA13 » 2011 Nov 04, 16:45

Agree.
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Re: Wout BRAMA

Postby Fides » 2012 Oct 12, 08:22

WTF happened to this set?
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Re: Wout BRAMA

Postby Karbrüggen » 2012 Nov 27, 01:29

wout plays well at twente, he is good in the defensive midfield. in my opinion one of the best defensive midfielder in the Eredivisie this time.his stats need to improve. _tick what u think?

my suggestion:
Attack: 70
Defence: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 80
Short Pass Speed: 80
Swerve: 73
Ball Controll: 79
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Explosive Power: 75
Top Speed: 76
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Body Balance: 79
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Tenacity: 82
Teamwork: 85
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Re: Wout BRAMA

Postby Fides » 2012 Nov 27, 08:11

Yeah for some reason he set got altered at some point. I think he is pretty average, but reliable (high consistency, stamina, tenacity and TW).
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Re: Wout Brama

Postby Fides » 2013 Sep 17, 12:48

He is having a lot of injury trouble right now. IT: C is warranted. Yet I think his TW and MENT are very underrated. Without those 2 attributes he probably would just be a 2nd league player...now he even made it into the NT.
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Re: Wout Brama

Postby mcmattie » 2013 Sep 17, 12:59

Well up till now he did play like every match each season, so I'm not sure he needs C.
I don't think he is a very special player, but he could have some slight raises.
He only played several matches for the NT btw, including the one against Ukraine which didn't include any from the WC2010 team (except Vorm). So that doesn't mean much imo.
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Re: Wout Brama

Postby Fides » 2013 Sep 17, 13:05

mcmattie wrote:Well up till now he did play like every match each season, so I'm not sure he needs C.
I don't think he is a very special player, but he could have some slight raises.
He only played several matches for the NT btw, including the one against Ukraine which didn't include any from the WC2010 team (except Vorm). So that doesn't mean much imo.
Well up till now that true, but it seems like he got himself in some permanent/structural ankle injury since last february.

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