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Facundo Oreja

Postby PES Stats Database » 2011 Apr 10, 22:33

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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby gotaa » 2011 Apr 12, 14:13

I've always liked the way he plays, really don't know why he hasn't a place in the starting 11. The only "correction" I can make to this set is that he plays only on the right side, at least I've never seen him play on the left, and also with the values of WFA and WFF you've put to him Julgui he shouldn't deserve Both sides
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby julgui » 2011 Apr 13, 00:33

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Re: Facundo OREJA

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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby julgui » 2011 Jul 24, 21:08

Transfer from San Martín Tucumán _arg to Ferro _arg
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby Vickingo » 2012 May 01, 17:40

Set looks outdated and mostly underrated. I do like this guy, it's Ferro's crowd hero as he's probably most mental player in the team and he's almost a leader. Must be one of the few SB with good mentality in B Nacional as most of them are -25 and without experience. Imo, could have a huge increase there, he fights a lot, typical icon of the team and i don't know what you think, I watch him with an excellent pace in long runs, as well as with the ball. He shows a good aggression too and probably he's a ATT>DEF by a good step. I'm sorry about the "vague" comment in here, but probably Matias knows him better.
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby lucardax5d » 2012 May 01, 18:47

He deserves MEN yellow undoubtedly, but at the same time would have to lower their TECH 1 or 2 points.
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby gotaa » 2012 May 01, 19:19

I agree with you both. He's pure mentality and commitment, aggression and TW. Updated (added Long Throw too)

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DEF: 65 (-3)
STA: 84 (+1)
TS: 83 (+2)
RESP: 75 (-2)
DA: 75 (+1)
DS: 79 (+1)
LPA: 75 (+2) / LPS: 77 (+4)
ST: 67 (+1)
Header: 70 (-2)
Technique: 76 (-2)
Aggression: 79 (+2)
Mentality: 81 (+4)
Teamwork: 80 (+2)
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby Vickingo » 2012 May 01, 19:53

Good call here Matias, but actually I watch him better in terms of mentality, I know that value in stamina tends to make him running, active and tireless for what B Nacional is, but the commitment of this guy is something really remarkable and strange in a B Nacioanl SB, he's the icon of the team and he doesn't stop running the whole match, I was thinking in something similar to Ferrari's tbh I watch very similar to him in mentality (Paulo has far better other qualities as it's stamina and technical skills), 83 or so...may be it's just my impression. About DS isn't he abit better? I think that's a huge gap between his DA and his DS, similar to Clemente's difference (I have him with 69-84 in da/ds) and Oreja could have something like 73/74-81/82), he's really fast with and without the ball and really thin, reminds me Luciano Vella in these aspects. Again may be it's just my impression.
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby gotaa » 2012 May 25, 22:37

Watching him today, I think his DS is fine at this point, because he doesn't run forwards with the ball as a crazy, at least in this last match, run for acouple meters and then gave a pass or thought what to do. About Ment, I'm gonna post as soon as I can in the Nacional B ladders the conclussions I got about Mentality comparing with Konami's original OF, something that I think you have been saying too: it is way overrated in almost every player nowadays and has to go down generally. I think it is a bit high according to what I get now, but we'll see later.

EDIT: moved to GELP.
http://www.gimnasia.org.ar/futbol.php?i ... 2012-07-06
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby jorgecavs » 2012 Oct 15, 00:59

Vs Douglas Haig. He played as a RB, seemed more defensive than offensive, because he did not attack in the entire game, the complete opposite of Licht. As for his performance played well, was very safe in defense, with great sacrifice. He once showed an excellent BB, but in the next few minutes the contrary, random BB.
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby gotaa » 2012 Oct 26, 23:36

Yeah, seriously his level of aggresiveness has got lower this season noticeably. He goes forwards a few copule times, and most of times ends up sending inaccurate crosses. May be a little slower too, or it's just that (as said, doesn't go much forwards) doesn't display it. ATT/DEF ratio could probably be stretched a bit increasing DEF and lowering ATT.
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Oct 27, 16:13

Still I think he could get yellow mentality? Not so sure though.
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby gotaa » 2012 Oct 27, 21:56

I don't think so, IMO the current value is accurate and fits the team, plus he has a good responsiveness for a SB and STA to make him active. I doubt if he deserves WB and SM still, long time since he doesn't play there (won't have many chances to do it in GELP, either).
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby leandro81 » 2012 Nov 15, 01:14

I really like Facundo Oreja, and I'm GELP fan, but really... did you think that he has...
S03 - Long Thow
S06 - Long Range Drive
S14 - Deft Touch Skills
S15 - Knuckle Shot
S16 - Jumping Volley
S17 - Scissor Kick
S18 - Heel Flick
S19 - Weighted Pass
S20 - Double Touch
S21 - Run Around
S22 - Sombrero
S23 - 180 Drag
S25 - Diving Header
S26 - Gk Long Throw

???????

Anyway, I think he can go towards attack but he has Cabrera more forward so I think he can't go pass through middle field.
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby leandro81 » 2012 Nov 15, 01:20

jorgecavs wrote:Vs Douglas Haig. He played as a RB, seemed more defensive than offensive, because he did not attack in the entire game, the complete opposite of Licht. As for his performance played well, was very safe in defense, with great sacrifice. He once showed an excellent BB, but in the next few minutes the contrary, random BB.


Sorry, I went to that forgettable match (really bad) and I dont remember Oreja playing on the Lycht side, he's right as Cabrera, and Lycht is more 'zurdo' than the Che Guevara. :lol: :D
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby gotaa » 2012 Nov 15, 01:41

Jorge said that he DIDN'T attack as much as Litch did, not that Oreja played on the left side, friend ;). I hadn't seen the cards, it's a bug from the editor. Glad to have another partner in Nacional B, please get used to the meaning of the values here: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27818

and your suggestions will be welcome! :)
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Re: Facundo OREJA

Postby leandro81 » 2012 Nov 15, 02:05

Oh! I sorry :D I misunderstood, even motived with so many cards :D
Thanks for the link, it's all explained there! but i've some little differences cause Im playing 2013
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Re: Facundo Oreja

Postby Vickingo » 2013 May 29, 14:56

I'm pretty sure his mentality must be at least yellows, the guy is loved by fans cause his sacrifice and how he moves on the team in difficult moments, not by ability just for effort.
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Re: Facundo Oreja

Postby Paablito » 2013 Aug 05, 01:17

Vickingo wrote:I'm pretty sure his mentality must be at least yellows, the guy is loved by fans cause his sacrifice and how he moves on the team in difficult moments, not by ability just for effort.

Totally, today I confirmed that, also his STA is really awesome, proved to have good strength, he ran all the match.
Was very attentive for pressure to Ferreyra and not let him play quiet, almost did not let him play the whole game. Showed very nice TS without the ball but a little dummy with the ball, although he made ​​good centers.

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