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Jonas Gonçalves

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Mar 12, 18:55

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Portuguesa & Gremio 2008

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Re: JONAS

Postby rafzin » 2009 Mar 13, 08:04

for me is very good stats, but only balance is much to him. maybe 80
But the 3 try's to make the goal looks very funny
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Re: JONAS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 13, 10:38

rafzin wrote:But the 3 try's to make the goal looks very funny
I don't know what this means :?

But thank you for the suggestion & compliment. I was uneasy doing this player...but felt from watching his game & 20 min of highlights....that his best qualities are ST, Bal....and fence climbing :P

I was able to download another game, and I will look at these stats again. But I appreciate any other input :D
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Re: JONAS

Postby Ajacied_Breda1 » 2009 Mar 13, 10:40

I think he meant it took Jonas 3 shots to score a goal in one of those movies or so. ;)
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Re: JONAS

Postby rafzin » 2009 Mar 13, 10:53

this video explain my very bad English
http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Es ... CO,00.html
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Re: JONAS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 13, 11:05

YIKES!! :o

I think that is the game I have downloaded. I think he deserves the *Scoring after seeing that :lol:
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Re: JONAS

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Mar 14, 01:30

Seems a good suggestions :lol: ... I agree :lol: ... Oh my, it's so sad :lol: ...

Well, talking about business now :P ... Isn't he faster than Alex Mineiro?
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Re: JONAS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 14, 02:11

From watching 1 match, and a lot of highlight clips I felt comfortable with this average rating for TS/ACCL for Jonas. I'm not sure about Mineiro's speed. Is it possible he is a few points too high? I will watch their next match(I have it Downloaded), and get back to you on Speed and Bal ;)
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Re: JONAS

Postby rafzin » 2009 Mar 14, 08:37

yes Jonas is more faster than Alex Mineiro. but maybe the balance are wrong
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Re: JONAS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 14, 16:59

Well, he does have *Post Player...so maybe we can go with

81 BB

I think Mineiro should be 79ts/80acc
& Jonas can be 80/80?

But I really am not sure Jonas is really that fast :?
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Re: JONAS

Postby pedala robinho » 2009 Mar 14, 18:19

Agree with BB: 81 ;) ... About TS and ACC:

Alex Mineiro
TS: 78~79
ACC: 80

Jonas
TS: 79
ACC: 81~82

What you think? ;)
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Re: JONAS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 14, 19:35

81 accl max ;)
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Re: JONAS

Postby .Maguss. » 2009 Mar 15, 20:21

With these stats (good attack and body balance, good header, bad speed and passing stats, post player star) he looks much more as a classic center forward, a thing that he isn't. Jonas is more an "outside the area" attacker. I seeing (this is the correct word?) him since from his times at Santos, and he was always know as a quality player with wastefull shot.

I remember when Gremio and Santos played for Libertadores da America 2-3 years ago, and I said to my friend: hey, Jonas will play for Santos, and this is a good thing for us, as he always misses his chances of goal :D

Although he become better at shoting the last years, he is still wastefull. The last game against Boyaca Chicó is just a good example of this (3 misses in a row).

Now, here's my suggestions:
Balance: 81. People already suggested this. He isn't weak, but certainlly not that strong.

Response: 82-83. He is a very sharp player. He have a great ability to antecipate the defenders, although much people don't see this coz they always remember his miss of goal, as he doing this most of the time.

Top Speed and Acceleration in the low 80s. He isn't a road runner, but he is fast. And much faster than Alex Mineiro. Look at the video he missed the 3 goals, and see the sprint he does before this. Fast player for sure.

Agility: 83. He has pretty good agility. 81 is low for him.

Dribble Accuracy can be upped by 2 points. He has a pretty good dribble too. Also, Dribble Speed is very low. It can be the same of Dribble Accuracy or even 1 point higher.

Don't know why you rated his short passing abilities so low. He makes some good assists. He is a technical player. Short passing can be in the greens, LPA is ok, but LPS is very low. 74-75 probably.

Shot accuracy certainly need to be droped. 76-77 probably. I'd go with 77 probably, coz he become a bit better since last year, and Perea has 76. Although he is still wastefull...

Header is overrated. Don't score from his head that often. Reduce it.

Technique should be higher. 82 or even 83.

Agression can be a bit higher too.

And finally, TW should be higher, as he isn't that selfish. High 70s probably.

For the Stars, Dribbling should be placed over Post Player.

I also think SS can be added as a position, at least optional.
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Re: JONAS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 16, 02:53

Thanks for the input. I was careful not to overrate him. The only thing I will disagree you on is SPass stats. If you look at players like Zarate & Lavezzi, you will see that they are very good passing CFs...and not in the green. I feel generally on the database, we need to be a little more harsh with CF passing ;)

I will make your other changes....I also was not sure of his speed & agility. But I'll trust you ;)
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Re: JONAS

Postby .Maguss. » 2009 Mar 18, 16:58

jmg721 wrote:Thanks for the input. I was careful not to overrate him. The only thing I will disagree you on is SPass stats. If you look at players like Zarate & Lavezzi, you will see that they are very good passing CFs...and not in the green. I feel generally on the database, we need to be a little more harsh with CF passing ;)

I will make your other changes....I also was not sure of his speed & agility. But I'll trust you ;)


IMO people underrate SP of some CFs, just coz they are CFs. But this isn't the point here.

Jonas is faster than this. TS 82 and Acceleration 83 IMO.

His DS is still very low. It should be higher than his DA.

And finally, his Stamina can be 1 or 2 points higher.
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Re: JONAS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 18, 17:25

Updated w/ your changes. I'm not 100% on board with all of them yet...but I will watch him more, and hopefully I get a better feel of his play.
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Re: JONAS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Apr 06, 00:10

Watched him a couple more times, and feeling better about your stats :D
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Re: JONAS

Postby tsunaru » 2009 Sep 28, 22:28

attack is 83
speed maybe 84 or 85(He is more fast than Herrera,and he is 84)
shot accuracy is 81
header is 83(he do this job so well)
technic is 83
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Re: JONAS

Postby .Maguss. » 2009 Sep 30, 17:15

tsunaru wrote:attack is 83
speed maybe 84 or 85(He is more fast than Herrera,and he is 84)
shot accuracy is 81
header is 83(he do this job so well)
technic is 83


Disagree with all
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Re: JONAS Gonçalves Oliveira

Postby tsunaru » 2010 Jan 28, 14:31

please update Jonas ,he is the best player of Grêmio in Gauchao 2010

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