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Miguel Veloso

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Re: Miguel VELOSO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Oct 25, 17:43

Is he this inconsistent?
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Re: Miguel VELOSO

Postby Tellmo » 2013 Feb 06, 22:49

I confess, I no follow the Ukrainian League, but I have certainly, Veloso in the National Team is a stain on defend! Practically useless in the defensive aspect, does not help your fellow defesensivos ... 69 is a number too high! Meireles, Matic (especially this one) are better players in this aspect and has a lower score.
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Re: Miguel VELOSO

Postby jurgens » 2013 Mar 09, 19:05

Gave him some slight tweaks, lps could probably be on 90's.
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Re: Miguel VELOSO

Postby mr.Boss » 2013 Mar 09, 19:18

jurgens wrote:Gave him some slight tweaks, lps could probably be on 90's.

Agree with 90's for LPS.I remember some crosses oh him in Euro 2012 from corners or Free kicks and his crosses were very fast and accurate ;)
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Re: Miguel VELOSO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2013 Mar 10, 12:57

@ Jurgens, maybe raise his condition too? He has been a 6 this season imo, atleast.
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Re: Miguel VELOSO

Postby Epsi » 2013 Mar 10, 20:47

I can't see the changes, it's just me or is it a bug?
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Re: Miguel VELOSO

Postby jurgens » 2013 Mar 10, 20:51

I only made slight changes, ACC -2, agi -2, LPA +1, LPS +2, if you can't see them, bug I guess.
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby bitz » 2014 Jun 26, 20:34

He played as a LB today so you might consider adding it to his positions.
I think his RES, TS, MENT and TW should all be lower. Seems like a rather static player who doesn't use speed in his game unless he's on the ball and even then he looks to pass quickly. Overall he is quite passive, barely puts any defensive effort and waits for the ball to be played into his feet rather than move into space to receive it.
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby KeyserSoze » 2014 Jun 26, 21:35

Gonna give him some tweaks after the end of this World Cup.
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby Tellmo » 2014 Jun 26, 21:39

Defensively this guy is completely useless! He deserves no more than one 66.
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby KeyserSoze » 2014 Jun 26, 21:51

With DEF 66 he's still decent at tackling. Nowadays low 60s are more than enough for him.
I'm thinking about lowering all stats mentioned by bitz to low 70s (except for TS, gonna knock it down to 68 or 69).
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby Tellmo » 2014 Jun 26, 22:37

KeyserSoze wrote:With DEF 66 he's still decent at tackling. Nowadays low 60s are more than enough for him.
I'm thinking about lowering all stats mentioned by bitz to low 70s (except for TS, gonna knock it down to 68 or 69).


I do not follow his games in his club (FC Dynamo Kyiv), I only accompany his games in the National Team, so does not seem to me fair be too radical... So just said he could never deserve a higher value of than 66. If I had the power to give you a value, I give him the same value that was given to André Gomes, 62.
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby JMVP » 2014 Jun 27, 07:47

Another thing i don't agree about his set is his short passing, especially speed. In absolute terms he's not on the level of the best player of the best, 93 makes him one of the best in the world i don't see it that way. And it also makes his short passing better than his long passing in overall terms, which is just wrong. Miguel is much better at long passes than short ones. And imo his DA is too high as well.
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby Charismawy » 2014 Jul 03, 16:31

what about adding Left back?
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby KeyserSoze » 2014 Jul 03, 16:32

Be calm, I'll update after the end of the World Cup.
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby Epsi » 2014 Jul 14, 16:37

wtf happened to this set, it was a really worked on one, why this huge changes?
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby KeyserSoze » 2014 Jul 14, 16:41

Based in matches for Portugal plus a few glimpses of him in Ukraine.
I wouldn't be that surprised, he's not the same player he used to be at SCP or at Serie A.
Just technically gifted, but painfully slow, lethargic and kinda careless. I know, it's a shame for a talented player like him :roll:
Edit: Just decided to keep the essence of his technical abilities. The rest was lowered a bit, same goes for Form.
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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby viktoristus » 2014 Jul 15, 08:06

Why add SB? It was one match played there after years. And he probably never played RB, so I suggest side: L, if you keep the SB.

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Re: Miguel Veloso

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Re: Miguel Veloso

Postby Luisao82 » 2015 Sep 08, 07:12

I'm aware he was downgraded. But based on what I know about this player: BB and STA are still a bit high.
Even Tenacity could see a downgrade.

I could be wrong, though. How has he been performing at club level?

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