Javi Martínez

[PES Stats Database]

[brazilianpesfan]

[see first post]

[Xyder]

I strongly believe that this guy deserves an update, starting from remove SMF, 'cause in the actual Bilbao he don't play there anymore and the youth teams of the NT he plays always in the middle.
After that I update his passing abilities in some points, I haven't a clear value in mind but SP stats need to be in yellow range and LP I doubt, his LPS in yellow for sure but LPA... I need to watch a little bit to decide a value, but something between 79~82 it's clear.
Header and jump could go up some points too, his heading abilities in the corner kicks are simply terrible for the defenders.
Technique should go up to yellows too, he isn't his strong point, but he has an accurate first touch, maybe with 2 points more are enough.
After that Mentality needs a little boost too.
For me this guy is a future DMF for the NT, in front of Busquets (I don't doubt about Busquets abilities, but I see Javi Martinez more complete, but Busquets is like an old dog but with 22 years only...).

[as_10]

My biggest concern is his Agility. With his current height he's terribly stiff.

Also, I agree with you Xyder, specially in the jump department, which is massively underrated for such a good header.

[StannisTheMannis]

He could get easily an 83 for header and a 80 for jump. Also, DA should be in the low 80's, he may be big,, but he knows how to dribble.

and agility could get some more points, about 77 or 78

[brazilianpesfan]

I would suggest to put his Balance in 88.He's strong and receive a lot of cards because of the combination of high balance,his height and out-of-time tackles.

And I agree with last suggestions.

[SportingGijón]

He's strong no doubt but I think this value fits well. Not sure he's stronger than Puyol or the guardrobe Gregory.

[brazilianpesfan]

I would increase his Mentality.He looks more hardworker than an 79.I agree with 81-82.

[brazilianpesfan]

[See first post]

[Xyder]

I'm agree with Matheus stats, only I doubt if we can increase one or two points in SPS and LPS, thanks to his powerfull legs that helps him to put a nice power in his shoots and passes, all of them with more power than accuracy.
If anyone has nothing to add to this stats I'll update him this midnight.

[as_10]

I agree with Matheus' set.

[StannisTheMannis]

This set looks fine, although I'd increase slightly his DA and DS, to 82 both, he is over Camacho, Sergio or Yaya Touré on this.

[Xyder]

This set looks fine, although I'd increase slightly his DA and DS, to 82 both, he is over Camacho, Sergio or Yaya Touré on this.

I have a doubt on there, 'cause Yaya it's a very good dribbler (at least his ball control is very good) and sits on 81. So for me DS could go to 82, but DA I'd go for 81 only.

[bssm]

I think his Mentality and maybe stamina could be even higher, he is a workhorse.

[as_10]

Is he still a registered DM? He seems to be placed more as a CM and looks very offensive sometimes. I'd say the DMs are Orbaiz and Grupegui only.

[brazilianpesfan]

Agree with Adrià.

[Xyder]

Swapped then

[JMVP]

P14 - Enforcer
P17 - Free Roaming

See this is the problem with the way cards are being given out. It makes no sense what so ever, he is an enforcer (a player who focuses solely on stealing the ball) and free roamer - always looking for a chance on goal - at the same time?

[Xyder]

P14 - Enforcer
P17 - Free Roaming

See this is the problem with the way cards are being given out. It makes no sense what so ever, he is an enforcer (a player who focuses solely on stealing the ball) and free roamer - always looking for a chance on goal - at the same time?

P14 - Enforcer + P17 - Free Roaming = P10 - Box to box

We can do this change, 'cause he can do both tasks perfectly, so more than go for only one of those, I prefer to put this card and maybe raise a bit (1-2 points) Mentality and Aggression...

[brazilianpesfan]

Agression raise is a must. Could sit on high greens surely ( 78 is my value), He's way more offensive this season. I think we could switch the values of ATT and DEF aswell