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Hulk, SIPG

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 15:21

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Re: Hulk

Postby TeamGrizi » 2015 Jul 20, 12:22

Hulk has great posture so as to
enable him to kick with a nice
strong body balance and make
against feeling pressured to see it I
think BB can go up to the orange
zone, the SP is correct and
Tenacity too little for him at least
75 inappropriate for him
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Re: Hulk

Postby Ramindbroken » 2015 Sep 17, 00:07

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/videohu ... id=2476109

There is some reason for keeping his ST so low?
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Re: Hulk

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Re: Hulk

Postby 2headedEagle » 2015 Oct 01, 01:54

He really needs a 97-98 KP .
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Re: Hulk

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Re: Hulk

Postby Luisao82 » 2015 Oct 01, 05:34

*FLYING BALL card.
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Re: Hulk

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Re: Hulk, SIPG

Postby Klaus14 » 2017 Jul 20, 15:26

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Re: Hulk, SIPG

Postby Ocrin » 2018 Nov 30, 03:44

He's still surprisingly decent in China, despite the level of the league and his age, especially on the physical aspect.

He's playing a tiny bit deeper nowadays, SMF should be added. Otherwise he hasn't changed much, the speed is still there, so is the strength. Body control should be high, much closer to high 70s, and probably DS/DA are a bit lower but I'm not sure on the values.

Prolific winger playstyle is needed as well.

His turning sucks too. A 2-3 point decrease wouldn't be harsh.
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Re: Hulk, SIPG

Postby pcrooce » 2019 Jun 14, 16:16

my draft on Hulk made taking into account footage of previous seasons (2017 and 2018), this one is the first time he's having less impact on the team.

probably current set could be moved into classics with a few tweaks, might work on that later and any feedback is of course welcomed.

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Positions: WF, SS, SMF

Side: R

Weight: 92 kg

Attack: 82
Defence: 43
Balance: 90
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 80
Acceleration: 78
Response: 80
Agility: 70
Dribble Accuracy: 82
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 78
Long Pass Accuracy: 78
Long Pass Speed: 88
Shot Accuracy: 80
Shot Power: 94
Shot Technique: 74
Free Kick Accuracy: 82
Curling: 80
Header: 66
Jump: 70
Technique: 80
Aggression: 82
Mentality: 66
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 62

Condition/Fitness: 3
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 2

NEW STATS:
Attack Prowess: 82
Defense Prowess: 43
Ball Winning: 45
Body Control: 76
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Re: Hulk, SIPG

Postby Ocrin » 2019 Jun 14, 17:33

Has his speed really dropped that much? I recall watching footage from a few months, maybe a bit more than a year ago and he did have great displays of speed.
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Re: Hulk, SIPG

Postby pcrooce » 2019 Jun 14, 22:30

Ocrin wrote:Has his speed really dropped that much? I recall watching footage from a few months, maybe a bit more than a year ago and he did have great displays of speed.


well, everyone can see it in their own way since every single stat in pes is something difficult to mark and compare since you have to take into account many values, in this case ts, acc and ds.

as far as I'm concerned, Hulk does not show more of the value I'm proposing, having seen enough clips of him, you can notice that he does not use his speed to a maximum, much less the speed of previous years.

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what he shows at 0:49 is the maximum speed of Hulk with the ball in a normal / average match.



while at 1:04 this would be the speed that uses at least 2/3 games per season.

(probably lazy search for footage but i wanted to reply so we could keep exchanging opinions).


he usually faces 1 to 1 to defenders, punts the ball and shoots or takes (usually) very good and powerfull ground crosses.

his ds and acc are the only part of his 1v1 game that is still relevant to him, mostly ds as it's the most consistant one to take on defenders as his da has always been sloppy and you won't see him run as he mostly jogs around the pitch.

also, something that i have to remark is that his main (i would say only but that's simply not true) attribute is that he's reliable, mainly because of being in the right moment of the plays as of course the level of defending there is mortifyingly bad and in his great and powerful shot which is still surprising for everyone when he "charges up", also, he does not use his right leg much more than to shoot to goal every so often (hence why the low freq but high acc).
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Re: Hulk, SIPG

Postby an0807 » 2019 Jul 14, 17:13

You need to reassess his speed :( :(
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at 3:20 and 4:03
[youtube] https://youtu.be/7hTIi6KVZng?t=200 [/youtube]
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Re: Hulk, SIPG

Postby an0807 » 2019 Jul 26, 05:06

You need to reassess his speed ! :(
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at 3:20 and 4:03
https://youtu.be/7hTIi6KVZng?t=200
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Re: Hulk, SIPG

Postby pcrooce » 2019 Jul 27, 16:41

an0807 wrote:You need to reassess his speed ! :(
Spoiler: show
at 3:20 and 4:03
https://youtu.be/7hTIi6KVZng?t=200


just because of that small sprint showed on the first clip? no need for more than what he has as it was just a small burst after a feint, the defender even hesitated and still catched up to him. and also on the second not that the defender was fast or any means but he ended up catching up with hulk and the clip ends.

that same second example you used i quoted on the reply above.

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