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Hulk, SIPG

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 15:21

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Re: Hulk

Postby furymaker » 2013 Jun 28, 21:02

seems like he can't beat any defender , someone should try him in second striker role , not wide right ..
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Re: Hulk

Postby Luisao82 » 2013 Jul 01, 13:28

Aren't we underrating his speed stats?

This guy is explosive and fast as hell, must be one of his main attributes. He kinda reminds me of the Eto'o in that department. Since EP is considered the new ACCEL, I wouldn't mind giving him something around 96.
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Re: Hulk

Postby Kerry » 2013 Jul 01, 13:32

Luisao82 wrote:Since EP is considered the new ACCEL.

Erm....EP is Agility.
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Re: Hulk

Postby midnight » 2013 Jul 01, 17:52

and agility only
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Re: Hulk

Postby furymaker » 2013 Jul 01, 18:43

and if it was ACC , no way in hell he'd deserve 96
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Re: Hulk

Postby Luisao82 » 2013 Jul 06, 20:21

Lol, I had been away from PSD for a while. Before my absence, I had this debate with some of the site's heavyweights. I was totally bashed when I said EP is Agility. Now I come back, and I read this.

Anyway, thanks for the clarification. Hope the current concept remains the same.



EDIT: as for ACCEL being 96, I can't see why not. Everytime I see this guy playing, he strikes me as one of the most explosive players I've ever seen. And I've seen many of those.
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Re: Hulk

Postby Roy » 2013 Jul 06, 20:28

Luisao82 wrote:Lol, I had been away from PSD for a while. Before my absence, I had this debate with some of the site's heavyweights. I was totally bashed when I said EP is Agility. Now I come back, and I read this.

Anyway, thanks for the clarification. Hope the current concept remains the same.



EDIT: as for ACCEL being 96, I can't see why not. Everytime I see this guy playing, he strikes me as one of the most explosive players I've ever seen. And I've seen many of those.


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Re: Hulk

Postby čale » 2013 Jul 06, 20:41

would you stop doing that to every single possible member on this forum?
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Re: Hulk

Postby Luisao82 » 2013 Jul 06, 20:44

LeMiserable,

just look at his plays at the Confed Cup (for instance). Look at how he oversprinted everybody he came across. Look at how incredibly fast he recovered, even being behind the opponent, to steal the ball in the next seconds.
There was this italian player, I can't rrecall who it was right now, but it really doesn't matter. The impressive thing was the way Hulk sprinted and reached high speed to catch up with the other guy and recover the ball.

And this was not the first nor the second time I've seen him doing such thing.
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Re: Hulk

Postby midnight » 2013 Jul 07, 21:17

if you put him on 96 for acc , i wonder how you'd rate Tello ?
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Re: Hulk

Postby Luisao82 » 2013 Jul 08, 09:13

Ok, maybe 96 is a bit overdue. But 73? Of course, I'm just stating an opinion based on my impressions. I probably missed many games where he displayed something around 73. I'm just saying, everytime I see him playing, he really impresses me in terms of ACCEL.

EDIT: One thing I don't understand: in the new format, Tello has 80 for EP. In the old format he has 95 for ACCEL. If they refer to the same attribute, how can this be?
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Re: Hulk

Postby Fixer » 2013 Jul 08, 09:20

But you keep mixing agility with acceleration :? it's really hard to follow your point. He's rated as 88 acceleration.

Reply edit: Because EP is agility, a few people have just told you :)
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Re: Hulk

Postby Luisao82 » 2013 Jul 08, 09:24

I'm focusing solely on his ACCEL.
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Re: Hulk

Postby midnight » 2013 Jul 08, 09:28

Agility became Explosive power in next gen pes versions , but we still have acc as an old stat so it basically means that EP = Agi and Acc = Acc under the set (old stats)
Hulk is 73 agility and 88 acc , that's all.
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Re: Hulk

Postby ricardonoceda » 2013 Jul 08, 16:45

I think he deserves better values.. at least like Konami values.. who follows Russian League??? Try to addapt to the weather and racist fans and also to be attacked because your salary from his teammates...
When i see him, i see speed, power, dribbling and a really impressive shooting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcLBrg_mGB0
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Re: Hulk

Postby Enzo » 2013 Jul 12, 11:50

ricardonoceda wrote:I think he deserves better values.. at least like Konami values.. who follows Russian League??? Try to addapt to the weather and racist fans and also to be attacked because your salary from his teammates...
When i see him, i see speed, power, dribbling and a really impressive shooting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcLBrg_mGB0


I do, but you can watch CONF CUP and see how he played.
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Re: Hulk

Postby Dimon » 2013 Jul 13, 03:19

Overrated in SA, he just can't hit the net, so SA should be 80, at most.

Also Tech clearly overrated, he has a lot of problems in stopping the ball, here I also suggest 80.
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Re: Hulk

Postby Enzo » 2013 Jul 18, 10:53

Dimon wrote:Overrated in SA, he just can't hit the net, so SA should be 80, at most.

Also Tech clearly overrated, he has a lot of problems in stopping the ball, here I also suggest 80.


I would suggest at least 81-82 for his SA
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Re: Hulk

Postby Dimon » 2013 Jul 21, 23:46

Maybe in Russia he does better, but I watched him at highest level, in Confederations Cup and here he looked poor, not even in yellows in SA.
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Re: Hulk

Postby Enzo » 2013 Jul 22, 07:59

Dimon wrote:Maybe in Russia he does better, but I watched him at highest level, in Confederations Cup and here he looked poor, not even in yellows in SA.


Problem is, if you rate him based on recent Conf Cup and RPL matches, then he should have 76-77 in SA, but that would be overkill. Maybe 80 is a good value for him for now.

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