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Re: HULK

Postby Enzo » 2012 Nov 30, 08:43

tuco55 wrote:Zenit don't play 4-4-2.

He is a marked man though. He was unwanted by the coach and other senior players aren't happy about his wages. A long, hard, cold winter in Russia will be a test for him.


Reminds me somehow of his spell in Japan :)
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Re: HULK

Postby vinnie » 2012 Dec 03, 08:41

i'll come back and post examples later, but i think his agility and TS could both probably come down, though it may be due to form, new footage simply shows that he isn't as fast as 90 TS, nor as agile as 78 AGI. From what i've seen, white AGI really isn't out of questions, he's probably somewhere between 73-76 AGI, won't try to pin it down for now.

And TS just looks overthetop, don't think he's much more then 88TS though i gotta refresh my memory of what his fastest speed looks like. In newer footage he doesn't look that fast. could be wrong about this. confident about AGI needing to be lower, not quite so for TS.
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Re: HULK

Postby Roy » 2012 Dec 03, 08:44

vinnie wrote:i'll come back and post examples later, but i think his agility and TS could both probably come down, though it may be due to form, new footage simply shows that he isn't as fast as 90 TS, nor as agile as 78 AGI. From what i've seen, white AGI really isn't out of questions, he's probably somewhere between 73-76 AGI, won't try to pin it down for now.

And TS just looks overthetop, don't think he's much more then 88TS though i gotta refresh my memory of what his fastest speed looks like. In newer footage he doesn't look that fast. could be wrong about this. confident about AGI needing to be lower, not quite so for TS.


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Re: HULK

Postby jurgens » 2012 Dec 03, 10:22

vinnie wrote:i'll come back and post examples later, but i think his agility and TS could both probably come down, though it may be due to form, new footage simply shows that he isn't as fast as 90 TS, nor as agile as 78 AGI. From what i've seen, white AGI really isn't out of questions, he's probably somewhere between 73-76 AGI, won't try to pin it down for now.

And TS just looks overthetop, don't think he's much more then 88TS though i gotta refresh my memory of what his fastest speed looks like. In newer footage he doesn't look that fast. could be wrong about this. confident about AGI needing to be lower, not quite so for TS.



The TS is rare, though I have seen him at about 90 TS. And yeah, I never liked this agility value, theres a big difference between him and guarin, and it's very evident to me.
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Re: HULK

Postby bitz » 2012 Dec 03, 10:26

Not sure on TS but DS needs to be close to Konami value, he's a threat when running on the ball, anyone who watched him at the Olympics will know what I mean.
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Re: HULK

Postby midnight » 2012 Dec 03, 10:29

i can't believe he had 85 in the past , he's so sluggish , he's really bothered by it , if it wasn't his Da that helps him a lot
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Re: HULK

Postby vinnie » 2012 Dec 10, 07:46

so will something be done about his agi?
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Re: HULK

Postby jurgens » 2012 Dec 12, 04:28

yeah, updated. I'll leave ds for now for more discussion, I dunno hes pretty well coeverd in zenit in vs comps, and I havnt seen him running really much at 88 DS.
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Re: HULK

Postby muradkaa » 2012 Dec 24, 11:23

He delivers the ball well enough in the penalty box, I think he deserves a value of 80 for LPA. However, his TW & MENT disgusting to me. It is so often make wrong decisions in the development of an attack, and when he can pass the ball, he for some reason runs on itself, in a word - anti-team player. I do not know, maybe it is due to his poor form or prolonged adaptation, but now it does not look better than 67/65 for MENT/TW.
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Re: HULK

Postby midnight » 2012 Dec 24, 13:02

id rather explain it with a slow or bad addaptation than anything else seriously , its really hard for him in Russia

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Re: Hulk

Postby _M_ » 2013 Feb 02, 22:18

I know there is no more acceleration, but I always thought his ACC is higher than TS, and his TS shouldn't be higher than 86, at least that's what I saw :p.
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Re: Hulk

Postby Rubin » 2013 Feb 15, 23:05



Incredible shot, the two goalkeepers would not have saved this.
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Re: Hulk

Postby Roy » 2013 Apr 12, 10:25

Shouldn't his DA be slightly higher? I know he's not that much of a skilled dribbler, but he can keep the ball under good control, 86, i'd say...
And I completely take back what I said about CR7's SP being as good as his...

And isn't Long Ranger a good card for him?

oh, and I don't really think he's THIS unagile, he's not super-fluid in his movements, but 73 makes him less agile than Y. Toure for example, i'd say 76
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Re: Hulk

Postby vinnie » 2013 Apr 12, 20:04

he's pretty much worth this agility though lol. he's so unagile, especially for someone that's pretty fast and is a nice dribbler, he has such limited body movements lol.
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Re: Hulk

Postby Enzo » 2013 Jun 05, 08:24

I agree on LPA raise to 80, he got pretty good long pass, not sure if corners are counted under LPA, but they are very good, at least in Zenit.

Also Ive mentioned in Neymar thread, Neymar is 86 TS, Hulk 88 TS, I cant' see the difference in speed, either Neymar up or Hulk down one point.
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Re: Hulk

Postby jurgens » 2013 Jun 19, 21:01

He showed some seriously good ACC at the start of the game chasing a ball, I thought it was neymar.
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Re: Hulk

Postby Roy » 2013 Jun 19, 21:03

jurgens wrote:He showed some seriously good ACC at the start of the game chasing a ball, I thought it was neymar.


I don't think the high yellow value we had him on was far from the truth, he's pretty fast off the mark...
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Re: Hulk

Postby martins7 » 2013 Jun 28, 02:34

I don't know a real valour but defence , defence awa and maybe stamina is very very underrated because this guy always helps the defence , always chasing back to helps the other brazil players! Really a warrior.
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Re: Hulk

Postby bitz » 2013 Jun 28, 08:52

Agree with higher ACC and in the absence of ACC in newer games, he needs a higher DS.
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Re: Hulk

Postby BigStu » 2013 Jun 28, 10:53

why is he so useless atm?

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