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Tomás De Vincenti

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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Feb 03, 20:08

stavrello7 wrote:Maybe he lacks of match fitness, dont remember.

Also read that was released at young age from River Plate because of a problem on his back.
Maybe that make him unable to play 90 minutes.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Feb 21, 23:22

De Vincenti's stats at APOEL so far:
8 appearances, 5 assists, 5 goals.

I think now I have watched enough of him to have a pretty clear image of the player's abilities and I hope I can persuade you to update his set.

He wears Number #30.

Add: WF, SS
Remove: CMF
Does he need the CMF position? I cannot imagining him playing there right now. From what I heard he played there when he was on loan to Kalamata and his first season at PAS.
I would suggest removing CMF, and adding WF(he is considered as a winger at 4-4-3 according to reports) and SS(he actually plays as a Second Striker right now in 4-4-2 formation).


Attack: 73(+1) he got a nice movement in the box, playing mostly as a Second- Striker.
Short Pass Accuracy: 77(-1) just because I think that 78 is a bit too much.
Short Pass Speed: 73(+3) one thing that characterise his game are quick one-touch passes to orchistrate the counter-attack. I think that was the main aspect in which APOEL's attack improved since his arrival.
Long Pass Accuracy: 76(+1) as you can see from the video he has great passing abilities.
Shot Accuracy 72(+3) He scored 5 goals in 8 appearances. He could have added a few more, but he scored one or two really difficult goals, like curving it to the net from a difficult angle against Apollon.
Response: 77(+2) he senses really nice what runs he should make. one example is his run in 1:51 of the video that resulted in the goal.
Dribble Speed: 81(+2) he is AMAZING at Dribble Speed, changing speed and direction. He gave some of the best defenders in Cyprus a very hard time to contain him.
Body Balance: 79(+1) as you can see at 0:25 of the video, it it very difficult to make him loose his balance and fall down. AEL has some very physically strong defenders, however I don't remember any of them beating him at strenght.
Tenacity: 72(+2) he does fight a lot on the pitch, even against poor teams. He chases and challenges for the ball and plays with passion.
Teamwork: 71(+1) he could have easily finished the attack that lead to the goal, however he gave the goal to Manduca. Also, overall he is a team player. However, having a more clearer image now, he is kinda arrogant when he is on form. He keeps the ball far more than it is needed and he makes tricks and difficult attempts, even though there are teamates available.
Also add the Trickster Card because he is very tricky.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby bitz » 2014 Feb 21, 23:46

Updated.
Visit my alt thread: http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=1011&t=25348
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Mar 20, 19:27

Attack: 75(+2), it hasn't been changed enormously since switching from midfielder to a prolific type of SS, only by 1 point. He definitely needs upgrade here.
Defence: 43(-2), even though he likes to track back and chase opponents, he lacks defensive technique and experience which leads him to make many silly fouls and receive many yellow cards. In Cyprus League alone he has 4 yellow cards already, with probably 3 out of 4 unecessary.
Shot Accuracy: 74(+3), same as Attack, he has become now an attacker and a prolific one, with like 7 goals in 11 appearances.
Explosive Power: 76(-1), his agility doesn't seem too good.
Top Speed: 79(+1), on the other hand, his has very good movements. Definitely needs upgrade.
Tenacity: 74(+2), he is a very tenacius players. Fights for every ball, especially when he looses it he will chase the opponent even in the dressing room to get it back. He sometimes have negative(if we can say so) tenacity, like punching the bench when he was unsatisfied with his performance!
Teamwork: 71(+1), now I have a clearer picture of his teamwork. Outside the box he has low teamwork as he keeps the ball more time than what is needer and makes many unecessary(but impressive) skills and tricks. However, inside the box he has very high teamwork. Yesterday, in the derby against Omonoia he tried to give a sure goal(like the one he gave to Manduca in the video of the first post) to Mario Sergio, but Sergio didn't finish. Not only that, he makes a lot of one touch passes inside the box and he has good vision as well. I will give him just 1 point upgrade because of his tendency to serve many sure goals.

I consider increasing Form to 5, but I think we must wait a bit, because even though overall he is playing brilliantly, every 3-4 games there is a game that he plays below average.

By the way, yesterday he played long periods of the second half as LWF, something that justifies that he is considered also as a Winger.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby John » 2014 Mar 23, 09:11

I cant comment on tenacity and teamwork because i still don't get the new meaning of these 2 stats, but i agree with the rest.

EDIT: Form should stay as it is, at least till the playoffs finish.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Mar 23, 20:47

John wrote:I cant comment on tenacity and teamwork because i still don't get the new meaning of these 2 stats, but i agree with the rest.

EDIT: Form should stay as it is, at least till the playoffs finish.

Nice about the other stats, and the form.

I can understand what you mean about Tenacity and Teamwork but I find that Tenacity has grown in importance in PES 2014, so I found it essential to refer to it in the topic.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby John » 2014 Apr 10, 21:14

Changed ATT(+2), DEF(-2), SA(+3), EP(-1), TS(+1), TEN(+2), TW(+1), Form(+1)
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 May 07, 20:43

Place Kicking: 78(+2)
Today, he scored his second free-kick for APOEL and he took probably 4-5 and converted 2 of them into goals. Definitely needs upgrade.
Aggression: 82(+7)
It hasn't changed since switching to Second Striker from a midfielder.

Overall Comment: He is a very good player, however since his injury a month ago he played really badly and his only chances came from set pieces, apart from a couple of long range shots. His form should remain low to reflect his bad recent form.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby John » 2014 May 09, 01:28

I can't agree on place kicking, Alipio's had everything considering the distance, power, placement, dip, except curl, he even beat Pardo who attempted to save it whereas Moreira didn't move, maybe he got caught out by surprise APOEL vs Omonia highlights, the Aggression value seems fair.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 May 09, 08:06

John wrote:I can't agree on place kicking, Alipio's had everything considering the distance, power, placement, dip, except curl, he even beat Pardo who attempted to save it whereas Moreira didn't move, maybe he got caught out by surprise APOEL vs Omonia highlights, the Aggression value seems fair.

I agree 100% that Alipio's FK was more difficult than De Vincenti's.
However, this is the 2nd De Vincenti scores(the other one against Kouklia) in only 4-5 attempts. If I remember correctly this is the first official of Alipio(the other one I think it was at a friendly).
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Jun 07, 18:13

petreleo wrote:Place Kicking: 78(+2)
Today, he scored his second free-kick for APOEL and he took probably 4-5 and converted 2 of them into goals. Definitely needs upgrade.

It seems like he is back at _gre Olympiacos, therefore please move him
It is very difficult for APOEL to sign him permanently, as some Arab team offers a million euros to Olympiacos for his signature.
APOEL offers co-ownership with Olympiacos, but Olympiacos doesn't seem to be interested and want to get rid of the player forever.
Maybe APOEL will ask to have Andreas Tatos instead.

Also, consider rising his Place Kicking as it's written above.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Jun 26, 12:30

http://www.apoelfc.com.cy/nqcontent.cfm ... ic&lang=l1

He is completely gone from APOEL.
Olympiacos rejected APOEL's final bid.
There are reports that De Vincenti will go to a team in Segunda Division.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Jul 12, 10:38

http://www.apoelfc.com.cy/nqcontent.cfm ... ic&lang=l1

Returned to _cyp APOEL Nicosia FC. Fee paid to _gre Olympiacos is around the region of 500,000 Euros.
Please move him.

OMG what is happening?!? He is like the fourth player up to now this summer in Cyprus who leaves his team, just to return a couple of weeks later! :p


He is #30.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Jul 26, 08:28

What a goal Vs Doxa(0:30):



Shot Technique: 75 ???
This is very low for him.
He should be at least in high greens... let's say Shot Technique: 79(+4).
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby stavrello7 » 2014 Jul 26, 18:45

Well, most important at latest PES for lobs and other special shoot types is ball Control, but yes i agree to increase it at high greens.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Jul 31, 09:54



Another great game for him. A goal and an assist.
And a heading goal as well. It is the third header he scored this season, he scored two others Vs Ergotelis:

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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby stavrello7 » 2014 Aug 01, 22:29

I would say he needs a small raise at his Header, 75 looks nice. Take a look at his goal against Helsinki.
TS at 78 is fine.
Shoot Tech. could go up, he is very good, 77-78.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Aug 01, 22:30

stavrello7 wrote:I would say he needs a small raise at his Header, 75 looks nice. Take a look at his goal against Helsinki.
TS at 78 is fine.
Shoot Tech. could go up, he is very good, 77-78.

I agree 100%.
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Aug 07, 19:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km2QfVufPKw

(2:03) Great steal and fantastic assist for Sheridan's goal(APOEL's First Goal of the match).

(4:01) After he received Sheridan's heading pass he won a penalty kich which he converted.

2 games this season for him, 2 goals and 2 assists!
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Re: Tomás De Vincenti

Postby petreleo » 2014 Oct 06, 20:08

Started the season really badly after his permanent transfer...
After the Champions League qualification games, he has been really awful... Play badly, created no opportunities at all, made many wrong passes.
The only positive thing I can remember from him after August is an opportunity he created for himself Vs Barcelona away:
(2:56): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x265z5 ... -1-0_sport

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