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John Mikel Obi, Tianjin Teda

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 11:25

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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby pebe » 2008 Dec 13, 08:08

Best passing players in England

PLAYER TEAM PASS % PASS
1.Xabi Alonso Liverpool 1005 85.17%
2.Mikel Chelsea 957 90.88%
3.Denilson Arsenal 922 86.74%
4.Lampard Chelsea 901 85.24%
5.Fabregas Arsenal 848 81.07%


XABI ALONSO
Short Pass Accuracy: 90
Short Pass Speed: 89
Long Pass Acc.: 91
Long Pass Speed: 86
Team Work: 93

MIKEL
Short Pass Accuracy: 83
Short Pass Speed: 82
Long Pass Acc.: 82
Long Pass Speed: 80
Team Work: 81

DENILSON
Short Pass Accuracy: 82
Short Pass Speed: 81
Long Pass Acc.: 81
Long Pass Speed: 81
Team Work: 80

LAMPARD
Short Pass Accuracy: 87
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Acc.: 86
Long Pass Speed: 87
Team Work: 90

FABREGAS
Short Pass Accuracy: 91
Short Pass Speed: 88
Long Pass Accuracy: 89
Long Pass Speed: 86
Team Work: 92


Yeah, Mikel and Denilson nice stats... Age is not determinant of ability.
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby bitz » 2008 Dec 13, 09:46

Where did you find those statistics pebe?
Visit my alt thread: http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=1011&t=25348
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 13, 09:50

Stats also don't indicate the difficulties of the passes attempted. Interesting stats though...not sure if they will justify a change, but interesting none the less.

I know there was also a thought that he was one of the most underrated CMF Response players. He isn't even on the ladder, and there was mention of him possible being in the 84-87 range. Sorry I can't remember who mentioned it...but I'd like to get that convo rolling 8-)
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby pebe » 2008 Dec 13, 12:51

Probably Setanta.com

"Stats also don't indicate the difficulties of the passes attempted."

So, i agree, but could have in my opinion near: SPA 84-87, SPS 82-86, LPS and LPA 82-85

Xabi, Frank and Cesc have Team Work over 90 .
Mikel and Denilson can have though 84-85 in my opinion.

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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby pedala robinho » 2008 Dec 13, 17:37

Man, you needs remember the Statistics don't consider the difficult of passes. If a player only make conservative passes and is accurate at that, he surely don't deserve high numbers in passes. But, I'm not saying is that case in Obi Mikel, so I agree with you that he needs an improve in Passing Stats. I have that suggestions:

SPA: 84~85
SPS: 82
LPA: 84
LPS: 82

What about DA? I think he deserves 80~81. And Chelsea's Website says he is 188cm and 86kgs (http://www.chelseafc.com/page/PlayerProfileDetail/0,,10268~33408,00.html).
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby FDA192 » 2008 Dec 14, 11:57

Truly, he doesn't give bad passes, but he doesn't give game-breaking passes either. I'd stick with 82-83 for SPA.
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Prata » 2009 Jan 20, 17:58

His accelaration can be 78 and his DA could be 75
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby TheTrueSeto » 2009 Jan 21, 11:07

Consistency 6
Stamina 87

He has done a great job in Essien's absence, despite having a few poor games I feel that he deserves a raise in consistency. Also, 84 stamina is too low for someone like him who runs all over the place
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jan 21, 16:09

I personally think he's been the reason for chelsea's poor form, he's nowhere near capable of filling Essiens boots imo... Easiest £10 Million ever.
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Bret_Hart_67 » 2009 Feb 18, 18:19

IMO he doesn't deserve the *Passing, I mean Lampard hasn't the star and Mikel has it, it's a joke or what :lol:
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Feb 18, 18:32

*PASSING? HA!! Whenever I have seen him advancing in the opponents final third he has very often gone for goal, or played a simple pass, not a decisive Xavi/Cesc/Iniesta/Kaká-esq thru-ball. I believe he got *passing because of his impressive pass completion rate and ratio. What people did not consider though, (I'm sure some who did were ignored) was the ease and simplicity of the passes. He doesn't need this * and I think SPS needs a decrease, passes along the ground from distance do get intercepted.

78??
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Bret_Hart_67 » 2009 Feb 18, 19:28

Yeah seems good :)

EDIT : BTW I think his SA/ST are overrated too, how can he be over Vieira :geek: Pat' is at 70/70 and Mikel who always shots in the sky is better than Vieira with these stats, another joke or what :lol:
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Phil » 2009 Mar 17, 17:11

Did anyone watch Soccer AM team mates, he said (can't remember who it was) that Obi Mikel is the slowest player in the club. I don't know if this is true but maybe it could be considered.
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby pikathunder » 2009 Mar 18, 21:41

phil-g2006 wrote:Did anyone watch Soccer AM team mates, he said (can't remember who it was) that Obi Mikel is the slowest player in the club. I don't know if this is true but maybe it could be considered.

Slower than Terry? I don't think I ever saw Mikel running at a top speed. But if that's true, I don't mind lowering his speed.
I also agree with removing *passing and SP, ST lowering.
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Paddy » 2009 Mar 18, 21:55

Mentality: 82.... he's a lazy bassa though
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Mar 18, 22:23

He's 8 points above Diouf :o! Thats just absolute madness I'd actually rate Diouf a quite bit higher than Mikel and lets be honest I don't think Mikel even deserves yellow's i wouldn't argue a 78 as a deep-lying playmaker-ish role he doesn't do a whole lot of running.
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Paddy » 2009 Mar 18, 22:26

I'd rate him even lower tbh, I just said that to see what other people thought of it.
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Bret_Hart_67 » 2009 May 09, 14:38

I agree and no passing and SPS 78 and lower SA/ST
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Re: John Obi MIKEL

Postby Dino » 2009 May 16, 20:54

Isn't he better than this?

Is he really that similar to Muntari?

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