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Diego Lugano

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 15, 11:19

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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2010 Jul 04, 13:56

@Razzerian
Welcome buddy. You truly seem like a valuable gain to this forum. Hope you have read around and learn what suvorov is trying to do for the Turkish league. He's done an amazing job, but I think we would all appreciate it if you made comments all over rather than just to BJK players :P We have a few BJK fans who seem glued to the black and white section of the forum :lol: There's a noob thread made by me, which i think you'll find helpful and the ladders to compare. Lugano is one of the best in the league and shown great ability to play in the wold cup and champions league so maybe a raise is fitting, but you would have to get a few "agrees" to apply the change to the first post...
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby Razzerian » 2010 Jul 04, 15:15

I read the noob thread, sadly after I already had spammed a little (sorry I'm a spammer :p)

Don't worry though I'll comment all around, I love Besiktas but I'm passionatly fascinated by the Turkish League. Unlike many people, it's the only league I really love. A lot of people you come across they love to watch the EPL or La Liga. Me, I've always prefered the TSL. I do tend to watch the Belgian, Dutch and EPL with a close eye though.

There ain't no league like the Turkish league :mrgreen:
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2010 Aug 24, 08:55

Technically speaking, this guy isn't superior to Bekir, Bilica or Ilhan. Honest to god, he controls the ball with his shin and looks far too jittery with the ball. Bekir and Ilhan are somewhat on par, while Bilica sits in between Ilhan and Lugano in terms of comfortability on the ball. Neither him or Bilica were to blame for the goal, Santos was to blame for the second goal because he broke the offside trap and both Lugano and Bilica weren't marking anyone for the third goal. All in all, the central defenders were only to blame for 1 out of 3 of the goals. Santos and Baroni literally underperformed like crazy. Baroni is was cynical and uninterested, and Santos was ineffective throughout the game.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Aug 24, 09:24

I think Lugano, Bilica and Mert are the last ones who were to be blamed for 3 goals. It was a problem of team defense just like Galatasaray.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2010 Aug 24, 09:47

No, Mert was to blame in some cases. He was lobbed from the goal because he wasn't positioned well to deal with the own goal. He was also to blame for the second goal because he charged out of goal, but stopped his run too early. Mert is far too eager to charge out of goal, but he looks extremely vulnerable to lobs :(
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2010 Sep 30, 15:30

His passing needs to be lowered substantially. He isn't a ball distributor and in fact, he seems very twitchy whilst in possession of the ball. His down field passes aren't superior compared to Ilhan Eker and his ground passes are nothing more than safe.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby hangma » 2011 Mar 02, 21:53

IMO his header must be over 90.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2011 Mar 03, 21:30

You do bring up a good point. His heading ability from set pieces has been a key element to our arsenal. Lugano is a great attacker and very threatening from set pieces. He can get some serious power behind his headers e.g. Fenerbahce vs. Sevilla ;) Palop couldn't even react to that :!: His heading ability should be raised to something like 87. His shot power should be raised to something along the lines of 80/81.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby general suvorov » 2011 Mar 08, 15:33

I agree too
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby tasmin » 2011 Apr 19, 21:21

if you are agreed why didn't you made the changes :roll: ?

just ladder wise some example:

1.terry - (188,84)-balance 88-header 92(jump87)
2.vidic-(189,84)-balance 92-header 92(jump88)
3.kyrgiakos-(193,88)-balance89-header 89(jump85)
4.tulio-(185,82)-balance 86-header 88(jump86)
5.lugano-(188,84)-balance 87- header 83(jump84)

look how lugano is poorly rated who had score more header goals than terry,kyrgiakos,vidic.... both for his club and La Celeste NT.his headers are full of power and accuracy in every set pieces al most.
also we have to consider their positioning/attack,res,agg,agi,mentality when they made those headers.overall,
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2011 Jun 02, 02:13

His technical abilities need to be raised. He's not an impressive dribbler, but he can bring the ball up to the half-way line. He pushes forward to give the midfielders the option to push forward a bit.

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Dribble Speed: 74
Technique: 73

His passing should be lowered. He can play some nice pin point passes, but his ground passes are nothing more than safe and not necessarily "impressive" for range. His shot power should also be raised. He can play some nice long range aerial passes. Something like 81 suits him well.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 16, 23:08

he have an INCREEDIBLE header... easily can have 2 points more, without doubts
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jul 17, 01:17

Totally agree, 100%, really. His jump is closer to Bottineli's who has 88. He has an amazing capacity of jump, and he won aerial balls all the time, more because of his well jumping than his ability to head.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby riva » 2011 Jul 20, 01:49

jump 88 header 88
1 he win the balls easy in the air
2 he is good in the juego aereo
3 he header very good
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby jorgecavs » 2011 Jul 20, 16:25

xeneize wrote:he have an INCREEDIBLE header... easily can have 2 points more, without doubts

vickingo_73 wrote:Totally agree, 100%, really. His jump is closer to Bottineli's who has 88. He has an amazing capacity of jump, and he won aerial balls all the time, more because of his well jumping than his ability to head.

riva wrote:jump 88 header 88
1 he win the balls easy in the air
2 he is good in the juego aereo
3 he header very good

agree
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby lucardax5d » 2011 Jul 20, 16:43

Agree with 86 & 88, and add DF Leader.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 20, 17:07

i think 88/88 is a bit exagerated, taking into account his eight, as said jorge,with 86 in JUMP will be fine
and with HEA 86/87 works fine (already tested), after see some videos, i think with 86 (or 87 MAX in his best days) could be fine, have a good head but his jump help it a lot... always win but soemtimes his header isn't so good for an 88

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and to his MENT can go up a pair of points
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby jorgecavs » 2011 Jul 21, 17:15

lucardax5d wrote:Agree with 86 & 88, and add DF Leader.

xeneize wrote:i think 88/88 is a bit exagerated, taking into account his eight, as said jorge,with 86 in JUMP will be fine
and with HEA 86/87 works fine (already tested), after see some videos, i think with 86 (or 87 MAX in his best days) could be fine, have a good head but his jump help it a lot... always win but soemtimes his header isn't so good for an 88

agree in DF LEADER

and to his MENT can go up a pair of points

yes, no doubt.
agree for add S10 - DF Leader

his Header for me is better than his JUMP.
Header: 87
Jump: 86
Mentality: 87

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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 21, 18:08

agree in all
but i prefer HEA 86
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2011 Jul 23, 23:55

i rally don't think lugano is more tenacious than bilica. bilica is cynical, eager to impress and willing to bomb forward uncontrollably. lugano is more focused and less cynical than bilica. bilica is similar to materazzi when it comes to cynical style of play. bilica deserves to be rated at 87 and lugano deserves 86 max. (tenacity) ;)

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