The Southamerican Champions Thread

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The Southamerican Champions Thread

Postby Vickingo » 2017 Aug 08, 14:34

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Well, basically it's the Southamerican version of Albo's thread which was asked by some users in there. It's a shitload of work making these kind of threads so I'll be adding them. Also if we can get some help from different users creating the teams (obviously working decently on them) will be very useful cause I can't do it all by myself in such incredible giant era.

We certainly need more users interested in create these great teams...there are some very important we missed...also we really need some uruguayan guys around to create their teams.

Champions Cup/Copa Libertadores Winners:

_uru Peñarol 1960
_uru Peñarol 1961
_bra Santos 1962
_bra Santos 1963
_arg Independiente 1964
_arg Independiente 1965
_uru Peñarol 1966
_arg Racing Club 1967
_arg Estudiantes 1968 _tick
_arg Estudiantes 1969 _tick
_arg Estudiantes 1970 _tick
_uru Nacional 1971
_arg Independiente 1972
_arg Independiente 1973
_arg Independiente 1974
_arg Independiente 1975
_bra Cruzeiro 1976
_arg Boca Juniors 1977 _tick
_arg Boca Juniors 1978 _tick
_par Olimpia 1979
_uru Nacional 1980
_bra Flamengo 1981
_uru Peñarol 1982
_bra Gremio 1983
_arg Independiente 1984 _tick
_arg Argentinos Juniors 1985 _tick
_arg River Plate 1986
_uru Peñarol 1987
_uru Nacional 1988
_col Atlético Nacional 1989
_par Olimpia 1990
_chi Colo Colo 1991 _tick
_bra Sao Paulo 1992
_bra Sao Paulo 1993
_arg Vélez Sarsfield 1994
_bra Gremio 1995
_arg River Plate 1996
_bra Cruzeiro 1997
_bra Vasco da Gama 1998 _tick
_bra Palmeiras 1999
_arg Boca Juniors 2000 _tick
_arg Boca Juniors 2001 _tick
_par Olimpia 2002
_arg Boca Juniors 2003 _tick
_col Once Caldas 2004
_bra Sao Paulo 2005 _tick
_bra Internacional 2006
_arg Boca Juniors 2007 _tick
_ecu LDU Quito 2008
_arg Estudiantes 2009 _tick
_bra Internacional 2010
_bra Santos 2011
_bra Corinthians 2012 _tick
_bra Atlético Mineiro 2013 _tick
_arg San Lorenzo 2014
_arg River Plate 2015 _tick
_col Atlético Nacional 2016 _tick
_bra Gremio 2017 _tick
_arg River Plate 2018 _tick

Supercopa Winners:

_arg Racing Club 1988
_arg Boca 1989
_par Olimpia 1990
_bra Cruzeiro 1991
_bra Cruzeiro 1992
_bra Sao Paulo 1993
_arg Independiente 1994
_arg Independiente 1995
_arg Vélez Sarsfield 1996
_arg River Plate 1997

Conmebol/Mercosur/Sudamericana Winners:

_bra Atlético Mineiro 1992
_bra Botafogo 1993
_bra Sao Paulo 1994
_arg Rosario Central 1995
_arg Lanús 1996
_bra Atlético Mineiro 1997
_bra Santos 1998 (Conmebol) | _bra Palmeiras 1998 (Mercosur)
_arg Talleres 1999 (Conmebol) | _bra Flamengo 1999 (Mercosur)
_bra Vasco da Gama 2000
_arg San Lorenzo 2001
_arg San Lorenzo 2002
_per Cienciano 2003
_arg Boca Juniors 2004
_arg Boca Juniors 2005
_mex Pachuca 2006
_arg Arsenal de Sarandí 2007
_bra Internacional 2008
_ecu LDU Quito 2009
_arg Independiente 2010 _tick
_chi Universidad de Chile 2011
_bra Sao Paulo 2012
_arg Lanús 2013
_arg River Plate 2014
_col Independiente Santa Fe 2015
_bra Chapecoense 2016 _tick
_arg Independiente 2017 _tick
_bra Atlético Paranaense 2018

Copa Interamericana Winners:

_arg Estudiantes 1969 _tick
_uru Nacional 1972
_arg Independiente 1973
_arg Independiente 1974
_arg Independiente 1976
_mex América 1978
_par Olimpia 1980
_mex Pumas UNAM 1981
_arg Argentinos Juniors 1986
_arg River Plate 1987
_uru Nacional 1989
_col Atlético Nacional 1990
_mex América 1991
_chi Colo Colo 1992
_chi Universidad Católica 1994
_arg Vélez Sarsfield 1996
_col Atlético Nacional 1997
_usa DC United 1998

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Re: The Southamerican Champions Thread

Postby dwid » 2019 Jan 12, 03:18

Vickingo wrote:Colo Colo 1991 _tick
Thanks dwid :)


Thanks for your amazing job and for let me be part of it!
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Re: The Southamerican Champions Thread

Postby Vickingo » 2019 Jan 12, 17:47

Akephalos wrote:I can help with Cienciano's team of 2003-04 who won Copa Sudamericana and Recopa. :)


Go ahead, you can post the sets in here with proper explanations each and using obviously our standards, read my previous comments in this thread to have more precisions. Look the last classic players added to take into account extreme values and giving what the players really show, no matter if numbers are in 40's or in 90's, making individualism of each player. If I see a PSD 2010 kind of set, will be disapproved.
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Re: The Southamerican Champions Thread

Postby Akephalos » 2019 Jan 12, 18:15

Vickingo wrote:
Akephalos wrote:I can help with Cienciano's team of 2003-04 who won Copa Sudamericana and Recopa. :)


Go ahead, you can post the sets in here with proper explanations each and using obviously our standards, read my previous comments in this thread to have more precisions. Look the last classic players added to take into account extreme values and giving what the players really show, no matter if numbers are in 40's or in 90's, making individualism of each player. If I see a PSD 2010 kind of set, will be disapproved.


Yeah I know what you mean, totally get your idea. I use those standars in my daily basis stats most of the time (of course in players were is needed)

Edit:

This is the set I have for Julio García, he was one of the talented midfielders Cienciano had in 2003. He was extremely left footed, so that is the main explanation for WFF. He was gifted with a refined first touch, nice dribling, accurate pases. He wasn't that good at shooting, of course the main reason behind this is because he did not used to shoot often annd shooting was a resource for him as he got older and more experienced. His nickname was "Pincel" ("The brush") due to his nice technical abilities. He was an underrated player who deserved a shot at a better league. He was not completely fast, was better at short runs and his passing range wasnt that high even though he made terrific short and long passes with he had the chance. He was agile even he wasn fast at all, he was "more fast" with the ball than without it. He was smart enough to deserve high whites values on ATT, I think he was a gifted playmaker just good enough to create good plays to help his team but he wasnt determinant to change the result of a game by himself. He was not very responsive either, he always was the kind of player who waits for the ball to touch his feet before trying to do anything.


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Club: Cienciano
Name: Julio "Pincel" García Mezones
Shirt Name: GARCIA
Number: 16
Positions: ★AM, CM, SMF

Nationality: Peruvian
Age: 22 (16/06/1981)

Height: 184 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 72
Defence: 40
Balance: 75
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 71
Acceleration: 77
Response: 65
Agility: 84
Dribble Accuracy: 84
Dribble Speed: 71
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 67
Long Pass Accuracy: 79
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 67
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 70
Free Kick Accuracy: 68
Curling: 80
Header: 59
Jump: 60
Technique: 84
Aggression: 71
Mentality: 65
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 73

Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 2

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★ Dribbling
★ Tactical Dribbling
★ Passing


Let me know what you think, cheers.
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Re: The Southamerican Champions Thread

Postby Vickingo » 2019 Feb 28, 03:21

Akephalos wrote:
Vickingo wrote:
Akephalos wrote:I can help with Cienciano's team of 2003-04 who won Copa Sudamericana and Recopa. :)


Go ahead, you can post the sets in here with proper explanations each and using obviously our standards, read my previous comments in this thread to have more precisions. Look the last classic players added to take into account extreme values and giving what the players really show, no matter if numbers are in 40's or in 90's, making individualism of each player. If I see a PSD 2010 kind of set, will be disapproved.


Yeah I know what you mean, totally get your idea. I use those standars in my daily basis stats most of the time (of course in players were is needed)

Edit:

This is the set I have for Julio García, he was one of the talented midfielders Cienciano had in 2003. He was extremely left footed, so that is the main explanation for WFF. He was gifted with a refined first touch, nice dribling, accurate pases. He wasn't that good at shooting, of course the main reason behind this is because he did not used to shoot often annd shooting was a resource for him as he got older and more experienced. His nickname was "Pincel" ("The brush") due to his nice technical abilities. He was an underrated player who deserved a shot at a better league. He was not completely fast, was better at short runs and his passing range wasnt that high even though he made terrific short and long passes with he had the chance. He was agile even he wasn fast at all, he was "more fast" with the ball than without it. He was smart enough to deserve high whites values on ATT, I think he was a gifted playmaker just good enough to create good plays to help his team but he wasnt determinant to change the result of a game by himself. He was not very responsive either, he always was the kind of player who waits for the ball to touch his feet before trying to do anything.


Spoiler: show
Club: Cienciano
Name: Julio "Pincel" García Mezones
Shirt Name: GARCIA
Number: 16
Positions: ★AM, CM, SMF

Nationality: Peruvian
Age: 22 (16/06/1981)

Height: 184 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 74
Defence: 41
Balance: 77
Stamina: 74
Top Speed: 71
Acceleration: 77
Response: 65
Agility: 84
Dribble Accuracy: 84
Dribble Speed: 71
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 67
Long Pass Accuracy: 79
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 67
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 70
Free Kick Accuracy: 68
Curling: 80
Header: 59
Jump: 60
Technique: 84
Aggression: 71
Mentality: 65
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 77

Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 2

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★ Dribbling
★ Tactical Dribbling
★ Passing


Let me know what you think, cheers.


Sorry for the delay, take alook around, now we're being harsher with att/def/tw values for any player aside top 5 if they aren't anything special. Btw, i'd like to have the full squad from that Cienciano, go ahead please.
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Re: The Southamerican Champions Thread

Postby Akephalos » 2019 Mar 05, 16:45

Vickingo wrote:
Akephalos wrote:
Vickingo wrote:
Akephalos wrote:I can help with Cienciano's team of 2003-04 who won Copa Sudamericana and Recopa. :)


Go ahead, you can post the sets in here with proper explanations each and using obviously our standards, read my previous comments in this thread to have more precisions. Look the last classic players added to take into account extreme values and giving what the players really show, no matter if numbers are in 40's or in 90's, making individualism of each player. If I see a PSD 2010 kind of set, will be disapproved.


Yeah I know what you mean, totally get your idea. I use those standars in my daily basis stats most of the time (of course in players were is needed)

Edit:

This is the set I have for Julio García, he was one of the talented midfielders Cienciano had in 2003. He was extremely left footed, so that is the main explanation for WFF. He was gifted with a refined first touch, nice dribling, accurate pases. He wasn't that good at shooting, of course the main reason behind this is because he did not used to shoot often annd shooting was a resource for him as he got older and more experienced. His nickname was "Pincel" ("The brush") due to his nice technical abilities. He was an underrated player who deserved a shot at a better league. He was not completely fast, was better at short runs and his passing range wasnt that high even though he made terrific short and long passes with he had the chance. He was agile even he wasn fast at all, he was "more fast" with the ball than without it. He was smart enough to deserve high whites values on ATT, I think he was a gifted playmaker just good enough to create good plays to help his team but he wasnt determinant to change the result of a game by himself. He was not very responsive either, he always was the kind of player who waits for the ball to touch his feet before trying to do anything.


Spoiler: show
Club: Cienciano
Name: Julio "Pincel" García Mezones
Shirt Name: GARCIA
Number: 16
Positions: ★AM, CM, SMF

Nationality: Peruvian
Age: 22 (16/06/1981)

Height: 184 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 74
Defence: 41
Balance: 77
Stamina: 74
Top Speed: 71
Acceleration: 77
Response: 65
Agility: 84
Dribble Accuracy: 84
Dribble Speed: 71
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 67
Long Pass Accuracy: 79
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 67
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 70
Free Kick Accuracy: 68
Curling: 80
Header: 59
Jump: 60
Technique: 84
Aggression: 71
Mentality: 65
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 77

Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 2

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★ Dribbling
★ Tactical Dribbling
★ Passing


Let me know what you think, cheers.


Sorry for the delay, take alook around, now we're being harsher with att/def/tw values for any player aside top 5 if they aren't anything special. Btw, i'd like to have the full squad from that Cienciano, go ahead please.


Noted, thanks.

will try to post some more sets and tweak the last one with your suggestions.Will post the sets here soon.
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Re: The Southamerican Champions Thread

Postby reydecopas » 2019 Mar 05, 18:15

Don't you guys think that perhaps we need a new thread something like classics from south America so we could be able to post sets, notes, videos there?
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Re: The Southamerican Champions Thread

Postby Akephalos » 2019 Mar 07, 06:37

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Club: Cienciano
Name: Julio "Pincel" García Mezones
Shirt Name: GARCIA
Number: 16
Positions: ★AM, CM, SMF

Nationality: Peruvian
Age: 22 (16/06/1981)

Height: 184 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 72
Defence: 40
Balance: 75
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 71
Acceleration: 77
Response: 65
Agility: 83
Dribble Accuracy: 83
Dribble Speed: 71
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 67
Long Pass Accuracy: 79
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 67
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 70
Free Kick Accuracy: 68
Curling: 80
Header: 59
Jump: 60
Technique: 84
Aggression: 71
Mentality: 65
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 71

Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 2

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★ Dribbling
★ Tactical Dribbling
★ Passing


Julio Garcia's Set reworked.

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Club: Cienciano
Name: Germán Carty
Shirt Name: CARTY
Number: 9
Positions: ★CF

Nationality: Peruvian
Age: 35 (16/07/1968)

Height: 184 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 77
Defence: 37
Balance: 78
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 81
Acceleration: 77
Response: 80
Agility: 72
Dribble Accuracy: 67
Dribble Speed: 68
Short Pass Accuracy: 67
Short Pass Speed: 69
Long Pass Accuracy: 65
Long Pass Speed: 64
Shot Accuracy: 77
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 79
Free Kick Accuracy: 62
Curling: 67
Header: 79
Jump: 82
Technique: 75
Aggression: 84
Mentality: 70
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 65

Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5

SPECIAL ABILITIES:


He was the goalscorer of 2003 Copa Sudamericana but also the set was made taking notes of his performance during the peruvian league, during those years, including his years with the NT. He always was a decent striker, very attentive to rebounds, with nice air game and shooting. He wasn't that great in ATT as I remember him being sharp in response but not very bright to overcome att situations all the time. maybe ATT could be raise and form could be lowered too. His performance during the Copa Sudamericana was way better than his performance during the peruvian league. He was not very technical either, nice bull traps with zero skill whatsouever, not a skilful guy, just a deadly finisher and poacher. Set also represents him at his best era and years in his carreer.


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Club: Cienciano
Name: Juan Carlos Bazalar
Shirt Name: BAZALAR
Number: 8
Positions: ★DM

Nationality: Peruvian
Age: 35 (23/02/1968)

Height: 181 cm
Weight: 78 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 64
Defence: 71
Balance: 79
Stamina: 83
Top Speed: 69
Acceleration: 67
Response: 79
Agility: 65
Dribble Accuracy: 72
Dribble Speed: 65
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 69
Long Pass Accuracy: 78
Long Pass Speed: 74
Shot Accuracy: 65
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 67
Free Kick Accuracy: 68
Curling: 72
Header: 74
Jump: 77
Technique: 79
Aggression: 67
Mentality: 80
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 72

Condition/Fitness: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5

SPECIAL ABILITIES:


Juan Carlos Bazalar was the "soul" of that midfield. A prolific DM with decent tackling and very responsive despite his age. Slow but very smar in defensive duties, he was a midfielder with nice ball distribution and nice crossing. He always overcome fatigue and keep running while tired and showed to be a nice player under pressure in both Sudamericana and peruvian league un those years. also he always had a decen ball trap, not outstanding but good enough to control some hard balls. During those years he was called again to the peruvian NT.


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Club: Cienciano
Name: César CCahuantico
Shirt Name: CCHUANTICO
Number: 6
Positions: ★DM

Nationality: Peruvian
Age: 23 (16/07/1980)

Height: 181 cm
Weight: 84 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 59
Defence: 65
Balance: 80
Stamina: 78
Top Speed: 70
Acceleration: 73
Response: 74
Agility: 64
Dribble Accuracy: 65
Dribble Speed: 64
Short Pass Accuracy: 68
Short Pass Speed: 65
Long Pass Accuracy: 65
Long Pass Speed: 64
Shot Accuracy: 63
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 65
Free Kick Accuracy: 62
Curling: 66
Header: 67
Jump: 70
Technique: 68
Aggression: 64
Mentality: 70
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 68

Condition/Fitness: 3
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 5

SPECIAL ABILITIES:


César Cchuantico, was a limited player tbh, he barely play that Sudamericana, he played more in the peruvian league. A raw DM, who was kinda bad at tackling or covering space wich only resource was physical strenght, in fact he was very build despite his age and it was his best asset by far. Technically very bad, barely dribble and first touch was kinda crappy, he had a strongg middle shot but not to accurate. He was more remembered for being a born in Cusco and being the only Cusco citizen part of the Cienciano champion squad.
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