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Dejan Lovren

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 10, 21:32

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Re: Dejan Lovren

Postby Mateo » 2009 Aug 30, 11:54

Little tweak:
Defence: +1
Balance: Is he really stronger then Biscan(84)?
Why so low free kick accuracy and swerve? Raise them 8 points
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Re: Dejan Lovren

Postby CrO_WoNdEr » 2009 Aug 30, 20:22

Mateo1987 wrote:Little tweak:
Defence: +1

im fine with that
Mateo1987 wrote:Balance: Is he really stronger then Biscan(84)?

for sure he is 8-)
and agree also with the fka/swerve raise
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Playboy » 2009 Oct 22, 21:15

He is one of the best players Dinamo has right now, I can see him getting away to stronger clubs next season.

His mentality is amazing always, fighter with determination
++ 1 tenacity / mentality

Stamina is a bit low right now
++ 2 stamina

He is quite responsive defender
++ 1 response

Dribble accuracy could be higher, he can play as a SB and 74 is too low,
++ 2 dribble accuracy

Shoot power should be higher for strong defenders, I would standardize it on 82 for now, could be higher even, but ok atm.
++ 2 shoot power


and I'm considering a *marking star, he is always close to someone, breathing on their neck, I see him as a marking defender.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Mateo » 2009 Oct 31, 10:57

I'm ok with your suggestions, so it should look like this:
Stamina: 83 (+2) on par with Mandzukic
Response: 81 (+1) 1 point under Biscan
Agility: 76 (+1) 1 point under Chago
Dribble Accuracy: 76 (+2) deserves green value
Dribble Speed: 74 (+2) little raise
Shot Power: 82 (+2) pulls sometimes hard shots
About tenacity, i disagree.It would put him on par with R.Kovac, and it just wouldn't be fair to R.Kovac.
But i would increase his Teamwork: 79 (+2)
And for marking, i'll watch him carefuly today, and then i'm going to suggest should he have marking or not.
Edit: He doesn't deserve marking, R.Kovac is much more better in it. ;)
Edit 2: I would also increase Short Pass Speed: 73 (+1) and put Side: Both Sides (he plays on left often lately)
Edit 3:
Shot Accuracy: 66 (+2) good accuracy for an CB
Aggression: 68 (-3) 71 wasn't fitting him
CARDS: S08 Slide Tackle

Edit 4: Updated.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Mateo » 2010 Jan 14, 13:29

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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Paddy » 2010 Jan 14, 19:26

WTF?

Lovren reminds me of Edmilson. He’s very fast, as was Edmi, but posseses more stamina and has a very good aerial game. Lovren is capable of playing equally with either foot, and has the potential to play any position along the back line, though he prefers the right. He’s multi-positional, able to play in the center, at right back, and even defensive/holding midfielder.

Slaven Bilic said of him:

He’s very fast. He has great physical capabilities. He also has a good aerial game due to his height(1,88m). What I mean to say is that he should develop along the lines of Corluka, Kovac or even Tudor more so than anyone else on the NT or the clubs. He has alot of class. He’s not a widely know player, but I think that Lyon has made a good move. He made his debut with us on the NT at fullback, but his natural position is central defense. It is there where he is most effective, in my opinion.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby PMC » 2010 Jan 14, 22:26

well they paid 10 mills for a 20 year old CB afterall
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Paddy » 2010 Jan 14, 22:27

I meant What the fuck after looking at the stats.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby PMC » 2010 Jan 14, 22:49

these stats make him a decent centerback for now if you disregard his age. He'll have to step up anyways to be a real valuable addition.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Paddy » 2010 Jan 14, 23:07

Okay well since you're not reading into what I wrote I'll just say it:

You've made him too slow, he's a pacey player and his TS deserves to be at least an 81, I'd probably have him on an 82 though with his ACC being 80 or 81.

He's basically two footed, but he is better if only slightly on his right, I'd have his WFA and WFF on 7.

He can play as a DM, which should be added into his positions.

He can easily last the 90 minutes even when playing as a full back, in which he constantly attacks the byline, his stamina should be an 85.

I know he's 188cm, but he's got a better leap than this, his jump should be an 81 or 82.

His dribbling on the ball is good and he brings the ball up the pitch with him, his DS should be an 80-81.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby PMC » 2010 Jan 14, 23:10

so he's a bid like Tamas. They actually have the same height.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Paddy » 2010 Jan 14, 23:54

Sort of actually. He works though.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Mateo » 2010 Jan 15, 15:47

It's really hard to make accurate stats if you don't have any suggestions at all, that's why he's stats are innaccurate a bit.

So we got:

Position: *CB/SB/DMF

Attack: 66 - I just saw that Corluka is on 68, and Lovren isn't really that good in attacking to be that close to him, two under Corluka looks much better.
Defence: 80 - His positioning in defence is quite good, makes some nice slide tackles, it would put him on pair with Ciani and Apam, heck, even 81 wouldn't be a mistake seeing Boumsong and Sakho have it
Stamina: 85 - as Paddy sayed, he can last quite good, puts him on pair with Cris and Heinze
Top Speed: 81 - this would be more correct then 82, one above Chalme, on pair with Bonnart, and one under Pjanic
Acceleration: 81 - his top speed and acceleration are on pair, he doesn't get any faster or slower after first 10 meters, keeps his speed
Response: 82 - this is not needed now, but he's preetty good at positioning himself for headers and in Dinamo with his speed + response, he often stopped some dangerous passes
Dribble Speed: 80 - this value was innaccurate, i forgot to update it to 78 though, but even 80 doesn't seem wrong
Jump: 82 - this would put him on pair with Boumsong, who's very similiar at jumping like Lovren
Technique: 76 - one under Heinze, his first touch, passes, dribbling and controlling the ball are good
WFA: 7
WFF: 7

Also any suggestions for passing?
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Mateo » 2010 Feb 12, 17:04

Anyone watched him playing at Lyon?
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Hayabusa85 » 2010 Nov 25, 00:52

He's playing consistantly alongside Papa Diakhate, although i've seen little of him this season to gauge any possible updates at this moment in time.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby conker8 » 2011 Jan 08, 18:20

nonobus wrote:Name: Dejan Lovren

Club: Olympique Lyonnais
Number: 5
Position: CB*,SB
Nationality: Croatian _cro
Age: 21 [05/07/1989]
InjuryTolerance: B

Foot: R
Side: B

Height: 188 cm
Weight: 84 kg

Attack: 64
Defence: 82
Balance: 86
Stamina: 84
Top Speed: 81
Acceleration: 81
Response: 82
Agility: 78
Dribble Accuracy: 75
Dribble Speed: 78
Short Pass Accuracy: 76
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 74
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 66
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 68
Free Kick Accuracy: 64
Swerve: 70
Header: 84
Jump: 82
Technique: 76
Aggression: 65
Tenacity: 80
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 81

Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak foot accuracy: 7
Weak foot frequency: 6
Consistency: 6

CARDS:
S08: Slide Tackle

Special Abilities:
*Sliding
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Mateo » 2011 Jan 08, 19:14

OK, quite good. If nonobus could only explain these parts:

Raising defence and agility, lowering lpa, tenacity and teamwork.

The rest are minor changes, which I can see well why they are changed.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby nonobus » 2011 Jan 11, 14:09

Def: Lovren shows good tackling and defensive positionning, 82 puts him on par with Sakho,Rami.
Agi: Despite his size, he is quite nimble in his moves, when facing a fast and agile striker or when he dribbles.
Lpa: He seems to show more ability on his SPA than in his LPA.
TW: he shows good understanding with Diakhate or when playing with Cris.
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Re: Dejan LOVREN

Postby Mateo » 2011 Jan 15, 23:53

Def: OK.
Agi: OK.
Lpa: OK, but I still think it could be atleast 75.
TW: OK, but for me he is more "mental" player then a teamworker.
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