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Jorge Ortíz

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 11, 21:12

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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby AndreVB » 2009 May 09, 20:17

He seems to be strangely rated in some places. Attack could go up to 67, his dribble acc shuld be around 78, 82 is definitely too high. Short pass accuracy maybe about 76 and short pass speed 75. Long pass accuracy could stay at 78. I don't know why he has a shot accuracy of 73, 70 would be enough. Shot power could go up, even if he doesn't have a powerful shot, 72 is overdoing it a bit. 76 for shot power I would say. Shot technique seems overrated, 72 could be better. Free kick accuracy also seems to be overrated, even if he takes all the free kicks, he is not that good on it. I would say that 75 or 76 would be better for FKA. Technique could go down to 80 and team work should definitely go up a bit. 79 for Team Work I would say. I am not to sure about the stars to, he is already pretty defensive but I don't think he warrants a covering star, becaues he isn't that good. He also slides a lot but his sliding tackles aren't really that succesful, so I'm not sure about that one either.
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby PMC » 2009 Oct 20, 22:36

refuse's stats seem weird... a new set would be appreciated
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby Hella » 2009 Oct 23, 08:34

Jorge Alberto Ortiz

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Number: 5
Positions: *DMF, CMF
Nationality: Argentinian Image
Age: 25 (20-06-1984)

Height: 180
Weight: 69

Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 68
Defence: 68
Balance: 76
Stamina: 83
Top Speed: 81
Acceleration: 79
Response: 80
Agility: 82
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 79
Long Pass Speed: 76
Shot Accuracy: 69
Shot Power: 78
Shot Technique: 69
Free Kick Accuracy: 79
Curling: 76
Header: 65
Jump: 70
Technique: 81
Aggression: 60
Mentality: 77
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 79
Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 6
Consistency: 6

SPECIAL:
* Covering
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby AndreVB » 2009 Oct 24, 16:37

New stats look good, I would maybe lower his Dribble acc and free kick acc a point or two and up his response two points or something, other than that it looks great.
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby Hella » 2009 Oct 24, 19:31

His ball control is 80+ imo, and with that FKA combinated with his Curling and SP, he won't be much of a threat tbh. I gave him a boost in Response though.
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby AndreVB » 2009 Oct 25, 18:01

Yeah he has good ball control, but it's mostly his technique, his dribble acc doesn't need to be yellow in my opinion.
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby julgui » 2010 Jul 15, 15:48

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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby julgui » 2010 Aug 18, 00:02

please move to Arsenal!
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Sep 08, 16:11

My (in my opinion needed) suggestions about Marciano Ortíz:

Club: Arsenal de Sarandí (add)
Age: 26 (+2) :D (20-06-1984)

Attack: 64 (+3) He sometimes participate in attack. 64 is reasonable and 61 too much low.
Stamina: 83 (+2) Being a DMF and also a player who has no problems to finishes the matches, I think that 83 is fine-
Top Speed: 81 (-2) Not too fast, 81 is a well number for him
Dribble Accuracy: 83 (+1) Great dribbler he a lot of times in Arsenal with Leiva drives the team and manages the times of his team with his dribbling
Short Pass Accuracy: 80 (+1) Definitely he deserves a yellow number, great passer.
Long Pass Speed: 76 (+2) 74 is too low for a player with his capacity of passing
Shot Power: 77 (+5) :shock: 72? Very difficult to accept that number. Definitely isn't a player with a stronger shoot but it's decent. 77 is fine-
Header: 70 (+5) 65 is very poor for him. A lot of times he heads the aerial balls in the goal kicks or in another situations. 70 is Ok
Jump: 72 (+2) The same with his jump-
Aggression: 65 (+5) As he participates in attack, 60 is a joke for him
Mentality: 78 (+3) Marciano has a standar mentality, it isn't awesome but decent. 75 is very poor for a DMF (and more like Marciano)
Team Work: 78 (+6) Another :shock: , who player are you watching? He always in thinking in the whole team.
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Nov 17, 22:32

Updated:

Attack: 64 (+3)
Defence: 73 (+3)
Stamina: 83 (+2)
Top Speed: 81 (-2)
Dribble Accuracy: 83 (+1)
Short Pass Accuracy: 80 (+1)
Long Pass Speed: 76 (+2)
Shot Power: 77 (+5)
Header: 70 (+5)
Jump: 72 (+2)
Aggression: 65 (+5)
Mentality: 78 (+3)
Team Work: 78 (+6)
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby julgui » 2010 Nov 18, 00:24

Every time I saw looked more like an offensive player.
That's exactly why play with Negro Leiva is the destroyer.
Not so?
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Nov 18, 02:13

Yes. He can go up too, I think agression copuld be a little bit better.
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby Vickingo » 2010 Nov 18, 03:14

julgui wrote:Every time I saw looked more like an offensive player.
That's exactly why play with Negro Leiva is the destroyer.
Not so?


In any sense are similar, but definitely Ortiz and Leiva are more deffensive than offensive player. I'm not saying that they never goes in attack, but may be are the most deffensive double five in AFA. But I agree with raise his level of attack and agression.
What do you suggest?
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Jul 08, 01:33

His SA seems too high.
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby julgui » 2011 Jul 08, 02:12

vickingo_73 wrote:His SA seems too high.


I agree!
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Re: Jorge ORTIZ

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Sep 02, 14:21

He seems a really awesome passer, long and short, but I'm more impressed about his long ones...seems easily yellow's in LPA. Also he has a really good vision in attack, he does it all simple and rarely fails passes. He's playing more 'free' since he plays with Marcone in the centre of the midfield and hasn't to mark everyone. Could use an overall update but I'm not pretty sure....I'd appreciate some input in here.
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Re: Jorge Ortíz

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Mar 05, 14:35

Vs Argentinos/Atl. Mineiro _bra/Independiente. Definitely a good passer and player. Again I'm impressed about the long ones, good accuracy but no pace really on them. Also he's good in attack terms, good choices, making the right thing mostly. Pretty elegant to play though.

Given him an update after yesterdays match, awesome touches and crazy traps.
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Re: Jorge Ortíz

Postby Paablito » 2013 May 18, 19:15

In the last games I have noticed about his crazy long passes, he has a beautiful vision to decide where go the ball and puts it where he wants, imo his LPA/SPA should be in middle yellow, very accurate passes. Also I noticed about his STA and TW, very supportive player, complements very well with Marcone.
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Re: Jorge Ortíz

Postby chamakh » 2013 Jul 06, 18:32

Moved to Lanus _arg

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