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Maarten Stekelenburg

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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby Ajacied_Breda1 » 2010 Nov 21, 09:11





And those two movies just show a few of his world class saves.

He's been growing the past two seasons and now most certainly belongs to the better goalkeepers in the world. It's true that with the current numbers he's really good. But Stekelenburg has been much more than "really good" the past two seasons. He's quite simply been world class and the only reason we've conceded a good few goals this season is because of our central defenders. So yeah, he does deserve an update.
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby mcmattie » 2010 Nov 21, 10:33

I don't think he was ever updated in the last year. But he grew so much the last year and did an outstanding job in the wc.
Just look at his SP and you know these stats are far outdated.
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby tasmin » 2010 Nov 21, 12:11

chanman wrote:Honestly I think his stats are fine, as some of you are giving him a little too much credit. With this stats he currently is really good. Some stats seem outdated like his condition and maybe agility. But everything else is fine. Stekelenburg is still getting better I think eventually he is going to be a even greater GK but until than I don't see any reason for too many of his stats to be increased.



it's funny ;) !

he is one of the best goal-keepers now a day's without any doubt. and you are saying he doesn't need an update :shock: !

he is one of the top class goal-keepers who is performing consistently for his club and country.

he is now a match winner.

just watch his recent matches who he showed his great reflexes and defence !

4 day's ago against turkey and yesterday against psv , he showed what he is !

also against spain in the WCF he was the man who held his team in fight up to extra time .

and just look at the stats ! he is worse than reina,gomez,diego alves in many aspects!

but that's a joke !

at the moment i believe he is in the top 5 . and he is proving that .

also look at the video's Ajacied_Breda1 posted ! he is simply awesome .
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby tasmin » 2010 Nov 21, 12:25

and honestly i have to say this ;) -

if he moves now to MANU or ARSENAL ,i know you will say ,

let's update him here,there............. :)
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby chanman » 2010 Nov 21, 16:17

I never said he should NOT be updated I was stating that we should not get carried away and start throwing international matches as justifying stats. As they do hold a some validity but I think we should focus on club matches like the video against Madrid. I do believe a few of his stats are very outdated like: Jump, condition, teamwork, ment., and agility and maybe even response. But all I was saying, trust me I am a fan of Stekelenburg and I think he is a fantastic GK but I just think his defence and balance ratings are well represented here.
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby mcmattie » 2010 Nov 21, 20:57

Indeed his defence and balance are not that bad as they are now and they need not a raise perse. Defence should be OK even with a raise of 1, but all else are just outdated and it's obvious all else needs a raise.
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby Ajacied_Breda1 » 2010 Nov 26, 15:26

[see first post]
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby tasmin » 2010 Nov 26, 15:40

i really like the explanation of goal-keeper skill value !

that's why he let to go easy goal against real madrid and that was hit quite hard by cristiano !
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby Kanouté » 2010 Nov 26, 15:47

I think Stekelenburg is being overrated mostly due to his WC performance, I didn't see anything so special from him then, though. He was just like the other ones, Enyeama, Khune, Tzorvas.. I can not understand this.
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby tomaster » 2010 Nov 26, 15:50

Yup, GK skills explanation looks very true to me, I can agree with that and new set.
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby tasmin » 2010 Nov 26, 16:08

he isn't overrated at all ! he is great !

yes,his performance with dutch team is just incredible . especially in the WC and last friendly against turkey he was just unbelievable !

but with ajax he had some ups and down specially in the champion's league . but every goal-keeper have that type of situation.

just look at reina ! he is superb sometimes,and sometimes let go some easy goals !

and his performance in world cup is enough to show his quality because that's the highest stage !

las personas pueden tener arriba y hacia abajo! pero es un talento!

that's why manu and arsenal are tracking him !
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby mcmattie » 2010 Nov 26, 16:23

Looks very good. Thanks for posting. Only aggresion seems a bit too high for a goalkeeper.
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby John » 2010 Nov 27, 05:42

No is not, if he moves out of his line he needs a min of high 60's low 70's

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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby BigStu » 2010 Nov 27, 13:18

Hmm I don't agree with that agg value, but I haven't seen that much of him, the rest of the set has my approval
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby s-cobar » 2010 Nov 29, 09:14

I absolutely agree with the aggression value. it is the system from Ajax, that they are very offensive, much to the front. which means for Stekelenburg, that he is very far from his goal to intercept long balls as a classic sweeper keeper. GK`s did it the whole 90`s at ajax that way. There is a part in the biography of Robert Enke. It`s about his time at Barcelona. At that time van Gall was his coach and Hoeck was the GK coach. In the GK training Hoeck tried to explain the GKS that they need to stay much mor offensvie - 10 or 13 meters in front of his own. Exactly like I explained it. It´s the old Ajax school. Hoeck always called the style of van der Sar as example. He did it in a perfect way at Ajax. Do create GK`s realistic it is important that we raise ouir aggression values in general. Kev started it with Stekelneburg now and I´m glad about it - I did it with Neuer and I work on a Lloris update where I put him on 78 in aggression. But that is an other point.

The only point where I´d give him a different value than Kev is agility. I´d give him an 83 easily. He`s a one of the big GKs but it is impressive how qucik he`s back on his legs. I saw the match vs. Den Haag a view weeks ago. There was a situation where Verhoek had a good header chance. Stekelenburg jump for the ball and punch it and in a few seconds Den Haag had the second chance and Stekelenburg was back on his legs. For his height and weight he has a good agility. Like I said how qucik he`s back on his legs. Also in the air when he jumps for the ball and if he engages
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby royvd » 2010 Nov 29, 09:27

You have a good view on the aggression stat for GKs s-cobar. Always good to see some innovative ideas on the representation of stats!
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby jurgens » 2010 Nov 29, 15:05

Excellent set. Really nice to see keepers being updated with new sets, 100% approve of this :)
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby Ajacied_Breda1 » 2010 Nov 29, 19:06

Hmmm... I'm still doubting whether I should raise his Agility or not. He's quite quick on his feet for such a big lad but I don't know if I should rate him that high, considering we also have Romero (192 cm) who's way quicker to get up and really cat-like in goal. Giving Maarten an 83 would mean I'd have to give the Argentinean a mid-80's value (and Luciano + Vermeer perhaps even higher). And I'm not sure if the South-American really deserves that.

Anyway, Steek is just one of the first goalkeepers I am giving a general update. Romero, Luciano, Isaksson (perhaps), Van Dijk, Mihaylov (badly needs an update) and many others will follow I reckon. Tend to work this through for the entire league.

EDIT: Whilst we'll keep discussing the Agility value (and I'd like everyone to voice their opinions over this, WITH REASONING ;)), I've gone ahead and update the set into the first post. I feel we've got enough agrees.
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby s-cobar » 2010 Nov 30, 14:08

to be hopnest, the last three month I just spend my time for new GK sets and I never throw a view to the ladder. I just wanna do realistic sets and that the GK moves like he do in reality. So when I say that I see Stekelenburg on a 83 in agility it`s just my impression on his moves and his actions and I haven`t take a view to other sets or your ladder. It´s not disrespectful it`s just how I work at the moment at GK sets.
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Re: Maarten STEKELENBURG

Postby mcmattie » 2011 Feb 03, 17:01

He can score some goals, look at the training. ;) See video at beginning and end(, you can ignore the Sulejmani interview in the middle, but also very nice goal of him):

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