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Álvaro Morata

Postby PES Stats Database » 2011 Feb 15, 19:50

Full Name: Álvaro Borja Morata Martín
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Fixer » 2017 Jul 20, 12:49

BigStu wrote:
Fixer wrote:Well he scored 20 goals last season lol


Fair enough didn't know that, though Borja got 18 the season before and he's been a fucking joke for swansea


So the deal is about the striker being Spanish or...?


@Relja Ok, you gave us a speech on Benzema and Kane in this thread and you don't even talk about Morata and now you say he is 'far better' than this set. How about some suggestions? Maybe they'd be more useful for this player in particular since he is the main topic of this thread :)
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Relja » 2017 Jul 20, 13:53

Yeah, i admit it's quite silly to write all of that mentioned stuff here lol, but Viyut started the discussion i couldn't resist :lol:

I am not willing to make any suggestions because the english mods will fix it soon on their own, we have couple of Chelsea specialists here, + i am also going to see much more of him in the prem. But, i am going to be the mr obvious and say hes defo quite underrated in ATT and even in TW.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby jurgens » 2017 Jul 21, 09:45

BigStu wrote:Hope he's got potential


He certainly does have potential, hes basically untapped potential atm. Morata has basically everything you'd want in a player, he has such a rare skill set for a tall player, it's perfectly well rounded really. Strong, fast, two footed, good in the air, good on the ball, good passing, good control... just all round solid. To me he seems a lot more suited to chelsea as a CF then Lukaku does. But.. he always plays as some sort of winger/ss hybrid, not as CF. At least whenever I see him at real, it's playing like that, he does play it for the NT though. But hes yet to prove himself in the role, and the move in general is a big gamble, I think it will pay off though. He has a lot of problems with killer instinct though, tends to hang onto the ball too much and go for one too many touches.

At the very least, he'll be able to play football with the team and hit around the 15 mark in the league. Maybe he can break that 20 mark, and as I said before, he has such a rare breed of techncality/speed/height, so if he could devolp his CF insticts he'd be a true beast.

I gave him a bit of an update, it's too hard to rate his shooting stats and attack with only sporadic playtime, so I'll leave all those key stats. Left his acc too, which I don't know about, never looked a 87 acc to me, but might be wrong. Just fixed his bal/wfa/and agi really.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby BigStu » 2017 Jul 21, 09:54

Does sound exactly what were looking for, not a problem not being a full on CF, as contes tactics realy on pedro and hazard at times switching wth costa, so it to have a CF even more comfortable with that fluidity could be a real boost. Hopefully he will get that killer instinct, perhaps we should sign a proven CF perhaps on loan to help him devolp that instinct, might be worth resigning drogba just for that, though looking at his shot conversion rate, better than costa and lukaku.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Oriello » 2017 Jul 21, 12:01

I recall some moments at juve where he did have a good starting burst to beat a player, but I don't think its such a big feature of him to need 87..his Top Speed is what is his strength, once he gets that full stride with em long legs, he can dribble menacingly at pace, but as you mention jurgens he does hold the ball a tad too long - or at least he did at juve (it was an annoying habit, that would have opportunities be missed), but from what little I seen of him at Madrid he looked better at this, much quicker to release the ball and keep a play moving, with smart passes.

14/15 was a regular in the second half of the season with Tevez and was this promising youth, as jurgens describes a tall player with all these added abilities of speed and ball control; a package. In 15/16 he had a run as a starter (I think Mandzukic was injured early in the season) and was doing fine, low goal return in the league, but he always showed up (unexpectedly) in CL matches or some tight domestic games with a goal. When he was forced to rotate with Mandzukic he started having irregular performances and suffered being as a sub.

He needs first team playing time and Madrid was a not the best place for him at this young age (yeah okay he "learns" from Ronaldo, best predator around now) but he would benefit being a regular, and if it is Chelsea hopefully Conte will keep the faith even if he has dry spells (Allegri did not once Mandzukic was back), as he seems to be a player who needs confidence ... or a big occasion to play well.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby 2headedEagle » 2017 Jul 26, 22:26

His dribbling style is very similiar to Fernando Torres's at Liverpool. Once he gets his top speed it's very very hard to stop him. I would give him 89 TS.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Defo » 2017 Jul 31, 15:49

BigStu wrote:Hope he's got potential, the player this set protrays isn't going to be the 20 goal striker we need


Well you can't really talk about potential with him, he's one of the best CFs in Europe. He has just been unlucky for the fact that he played his first few seasons in two stacked teams and couldn't start regularly.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby BigStu » 2017 Aug 13, 22:05

Promising so far, has to start next week, but looked really dangerous off the bench, looks like a Costa version 2.0 without the silliness,
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Epsi » 2017 Aug 14, 07:43

I'm upset I didn't see so much of him in 15/16, but judging from highlights he looks safely much better offensively... I hope he goes 20+ goals this season again
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby BigStu » 2017 Aug 28, 09:13

Started very well, 2 goals and 2 assists in a 2 starts and 1 sub app. Looks exactly what is needed in a costa replacement, obviously dependent on that form continuing but I can see an update coming, looks like borderline oranges in attack if not outright 90's. And he's not yet match fit nor been in the team with hazard, looking forward to the international break being over.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Tinmar » 2017 Aug 28, 09:24

He is not that good in holding the ball when facing back to goal. But he wins a lot of headers, is very dangerous with his head. Want to see more of him - more clear chances when he needs to use his legs, not head.

So far I would say attack raise and header/jump slight raise. Body balance definitely not higher than 85.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Tinmar » 2017 Sep 09, 21:13

Watched him a bit more - yes, header, jump and attack needs upgrade. Nothing else for now, he doesn't seems like those number nines with great shoot acc.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby FantazZ » 2017 Sep 15, 10:37

Alvaro Morata career

goals:64
Right Foot:32
Left Foot:15
Header:17 <---

This season 3 goal and 2 assist - All headed

Header 82, Jump 78

Header, jump and attack needs upgrade.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Defo » 2017 Sep 23, 16:11

Anybody has any ideas for a new set? This guy scored a goal every 90' in three of the top world leagues for the last 3 years and this set makes him essentially a faster Mattia Destro, I don't get what he has to do to get some upgrades.

Just to make it clear: I'm not complaining against whoever made the set, because it's hard to rate someone who doesn't start regularly, but at this point it's inevitable.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby BigStu » 2017 Sep 23, 20:54

Will be updated later when I'm home, or at least the obivus raise in attack and header will be done
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Albo7 » 2017 Sep 24, 11:29

That 89 for att puts him 1 point over Hazard and Falcao, just sayin'.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Epsi » 2017 Sep 24, 13:05

To be honest, I don't think the guy is at that level.
He's a threat, we all know he has become a very dangerous striker, but he's far from having a bordering orange value for attack. Something like 85-86 should be enough for him and better representative.
Something I'd fix for him, and that could be orange, is aggression. I've never seen him attacking the box this much like he's doing for Chelsea. It can be easily a 90.
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Fixer » 2017 Sep 24, 14:05

I just don't know what's so good about Morata but he still scores so many goals and he's really consistent at it...there's something about him that is special and I still don't know what. He is fast aye, but he isn't impressive on the ball, he is a very good header of the ball but that still isn't enough...and he isn't that great of a shooter either, he's alright...yet again, his goalscoring record is superb... There must be something, just as C.Ronaldo scores beyond his true visible posibilities. Imo that ATT may LOOK wrong, but is it that wrong in essence?
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby BigStu » 2017 Sep 25, 15:45

Ill just say, we all agreed costa was an orange attack, Ive seen nothing but evidence of a player equal to him in that regard. I normally would'nt have gone so high, but I stand by it,
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Re: Álvaro Morata

Postby Ryuu » 2017 Sep 27, 13:27

Fixer wrote:I just don't know what's so good about Morata but he still scores so many goals and he's really consistent at it...there's something about him that is special and I still don't know what. He is fast aye, but he isn't impressive on the ball, he is a very good header of the ball but that still isn't enough...and he isn't that great of a shooter either, he's alright...yet again, his goalscoring record is superb... There must be something, just as C.Ronaldo scores beyond his true visible posibilities. Imo that ATT may LOOK wrong, but is it that wrong in essence?

Maybe it's still too early, but I think he could get either *Positioning or *Scoring, what do u think?
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