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Argentina | Copa América 2019

Postby Vickingo » 2008 Dec 15, 23:04

Argentina National Team

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Nickname: La Albiceleste

Official Website: afa.org.ar

Manager: _arg Lionel Scaloni
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Roster:

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Formation:



Team Tactics: 4-3-3

Piece Takers:
Long Free Kicks: Messi
Short Free Kicks: Messi
FK 2nd Taker: Di María
Left Corner Kicks: Di María
Right Corner Kicks: Messi
Penalties: Messi
Players to come up on set pieces: Otamendi, Mercado

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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 21-3-2018

Postby Paablito » 2018 May 25, 22:27

Seems those will be the numbers in WC 2018

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1 Guzmán
2 Mercado
3 Tagliafico
4 Ansaldi
5 Biglia
6 Fazio
7 Banega
8 Acuña
9 Higuaín
10 Messi
11 Di Maria
12 Armani
13 Meza
14 Mascherano
15 Lanzini
16 Rojo
17 Otamendi
18 Salvio
19 Agüero
20 Lo Celso
21 Dybala
22 Pavón
23 Caballero
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Re: Argentina | FIFA World Cup 2018

Postby Vickingo » 2018 May 27, 21:13

Updated the 23 man squad, possible formation and official numbers:

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Re: Argentina | FIFA World Cup 2018

Postby pelimetal » 2018 Jun 03, 21:41

Victor, do you want I´ll add reserves for first post?
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Re: Argentina | FIFA World Cup 2018

Postby Vickingo » 2018 Jun 11, 15:55

pelimetal wrote:Victor, do you want I´ll add reserves for first post?


No, thanks, it's not really necessary nowadays.

Well, we have two guys with ACL injurie: Romero and Lanzini in the last 10 days, that's really bad luck. Eventhough, Enzo Pérez is a good replacement since the list lacked some player like him, I think he could be quite useful as a sub. And well Guzmán will be the 3rd keeper so he won't change anything.

I've updated with the probable formation...some good surprises in there: Willy will be the keeper over Armani (I think Armani should play but well).

Mercado or Salvio as RB (yeah wtf Salvio playing in there), Otamendi, Rojo (he won the place to Fazio in the last 10 days and I don't know what to think about him since he didn't play shit in this season) and Tagliafico (totally deserved, I do love him as you know).

Mascherano will be the DMF since Biglia is injured (and Sampaoli took him in the list, grose mistake imho) and I think he's the best option in there since Sampaoli didn't take any other defensive destroyer (another big mistake, i'd take Ascacibar, Marcone or Kranevitter). Lo Celso will be the CMF near him and this is a really great new imho, he could be the 2014 Enzo Pérez in that function but with better technique and passing...imo he will be one of the good surprises of the Copa.

It seems not only he won a place in the 23, Meza will be starter as RMF...and he's our proud, such a classy player...his development in this year in Independiente was just mindblowing...I guess he'll be quickly sold and we'll miss him so much...he's so complete, so good all around, so great at technique and so great at his personality. He will surprise more than anyone if he can play like he did vs Spain and the way he usually plays in Independiente, I do love him as well, he's my favourite player atm.

Well obviously Messi will play free and Di María in the left (will he sometime be really key at NT?). I placed Aguero as CF but people is saying there's one battle between him and Higuaín. I have no doubts, Aguero should play.

Even with all the mess AFA was and is, 3 coaches in 3 years, changes in the names and in the formations, the madness Sampaoli has...I think this team is really balanced and could play well together.
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Re: Argentina | FIFA World Cup 2018

Postby Vickingo » 2018 Oct 15, 21:05

Updated with last call ups...Scaloni called up some other players but the editor just give me the option of choose 23, so I picked the ones who seem to be the most important.

Alan Franco, Matias Vargas, Giovanni Simeone, Gonzalo Montiel, Gerónimo Rulli, Franco Vázquez, Renzo Saravia, etc also were called up but some of them were injured and the others played little.

This is a good renovation of the team. Only Romero, Armani, Otamendi, Tagliafico, Acuña, Meza, Lo Celso, Dybala and Pavón survived from WC. And take into account some of them barely played or are part of this renovation (Taglia, Lo celso, Dybala, Pavon, Meza)
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby pcrooce » 2019 Mar 08, 06:05

Scaloni list of players for the next friendlies

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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby Vickingo » 2019 Mar 08, 17:37

I'm so happy Lisandro Martínez is called up, insane talent. I hope Scaloni uses him at least 20-30 minutes. Surprises are Matías Suárez, Domingo Blanco and Musso. Oh and I just can't believe how idiots we must be to waste Aguero.
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby Paablito » 2019 Mar 08, 19:29

Finally the renovamp is here. I'm so happy to leave out the same players of the last 10 years (!!) But agree with Víctor, Kun must be here.
Btw guys take a look to Lisandro Martinez would be a beast in the next years, he has the whole package to play anywhere.
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby pcrooce » 2019 Mar 08, 19:33

feel the same with Lisandro Martinez, he's really good but for now really weak he has to hit the gym although his actual playstile suits Dyj, also, DyJ defence have been rock solid throughout all the tournament aside a few matches, while taking into account that they also are a really defensive team, vs Boca for 90 minutes the eleven players were inside the box.

I heard from a few Racing fans that Musso is doing really good in Udinese, and i've seen a few videos of De Paul and he's been great for a while too.

for years i've been saying Pity should be the starter instead of Di Maria and now because of the injuries of Battaglia and I can't remember who else but he's called up once again, hopefully not for long.

hate him for just performing well at club level and becoming such a waste at everything he does for the nt, with my friends we started counting how many times di maria fucked up every match, misplacing passes, crosses or simply running against defenders and losing possession and the numbers we ended up after every match were insane lol.

i'm still doubtfull that they keep calling up Mercado and now they call Montiel while having a fit Bustos.

btw, juve is playing udinese right now so i might watch musso lol
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby petarpan » 2019 Apr 30, 20:08

This may be a bit off-topic, but I wonder what do you think about Mammana's future with the national team? He is a great talent, still 23, a ball-playing defender, but he has been pretty inconsistent since he moved to Zenit.

Thinking of Mammana, I somehow got reminded of Musacchio and Gonzalo Rodriguez. These two guys were at their peaks while playing for Villarreal, and for Viola in the case of Gonzalo, still, they did not get a chance with the national team, playing only a handful of matches, while some other players of arguably lesser quality were given the chance instead. Do you have any explanation for this? I am not Argentinian, so I don't know if there may be some internal reasons for this, but for me, at least Gonzalo was a spot on choice as there was hardly a more consistent Argentinian defender than him in the last 10 years or so. @Paablito @Vickingo
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby Mariano_11 » 2019 May 21, 16:42

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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby Suji » 2019 May 21, 17:16

Wish Rulli ups his game and gets called next year.
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby Vickingo » 2019 May 21, 19:26

Updated the squad.

I have to say I actually like the idea of the list tbh. Only 9 players who were in WC 2018 (counting Lo Celso who didn't play any minute). I like this renovation.

A shame Kanemann and Lanzini aren't because of injuries and I'd take Pratto over Matias Suarez and probably Marcone x Guido Rodríguez, Lisandro Martínez over Foyth, but it's just a taste.

What do you guys think?
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby Mariano_11 » 2019 May 21, 19:47

I think the same as you, but now that Lisandro Martinez went to ajax maybe you will have more opportunities, and I in my case because this now would have given him the chance to be on the list of 40 to Lucas Menossi, and I miss the absence of Nacho Fernandez, he is at a good level and could have been a good partner for Messi. Marcone thing was more or less known since Scaloni made it clear his taste for Guido Rodriguez in the friendlies (he took it to Marcone and did not put it 1 minute)
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby pcrooce » 2019 Jun 01, 02:52

Vickingo wrote:Updated the squad.

I have to say I actually like the idea of the list tbh. Only 9 players who were in WC 2018 (counting Lo Celso who didn't play any minute). I like this renovation.

A shame Kanemann and Lanzini aren't because of injuries and I'd take Pratto over Matias Suarez and probably Marcone x Guido Rodríguez, Lisandro Martínez over Foyth, but it's just a taste.

What do you guys think?


Marcone would not have called either way because of the times he was called before to the nt he was only in the subs or was left out of the last 23 selected, always on the edge and it is a pity but in Boca he's not playing "the same" as It is said that he played as in Mexico. The polar opposite is Jonathan Rodriguez who stayed on Mexico and got the call up for Uruguay.

The other options you named were fundamental for me as well.

Palacios got injured vs Paranaense and i hope it's the time for Nacho Fernandez to get the call up he's deserving for a long time now as he's more of a team player and that's something the nt lacks.

do you guys like Milton "OnethousandHelmet" Casco call up?
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby Paablito » 2019 Jun 03, 15:28

pcrooce wrote:Palacios got injured vs Paranaense and i hope it's the time for Nacho Fernandez to get the call up he's deserving for a long time now as he's more of a team player and that's something the nt lacks.

Finally was called Pizarro not really bad option tbh but probably now the full squad is a little unbalanced, i prefer Correa instead of De Paul and Pratto instead of Suarez too.
Tbh i dont like Funes Mori call up, is in the list because had other call ups in the past but in the short future he must be out. Casco was injured but the last matches he played really well i think he was called because he can play in both sides and also as a kinda rwb.

Besides this as lucas said in the other thread now we dont have a golden era who started in 2005 or there, now the last call ups in u20 and u23 are good overall players but not to exceptional as the 03, 05 and 07 but is a good start with this new renovation. Paredes, Lo Celso, Taglia, Messi and Agüero could work and made a good team. Paredes an Gio can make a "flexible" team and both are great distributors but i feel the team lacks of strength on the sides.

I think Scaloni has this on mind:
Armani; Saravia, Otamendi, Pezzella, Tagliafico; Paredes, Guido, Lo Celso; Messi, Agüero, Di Maria. 433
Armani; Otamendi, Foyth, Pezzella; Casco, Paredes, Lo Celso, Tagliafico; Messi, Di Maria; Agüero. 3421
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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby Vickingo » 2019 Jun 04, 16:10

Guido Pizarro takes Exequiel Palacios' place cause he got injured.

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Re: Argentina | Friendlies 16-10-2018

Postby Paablito » 2019 Jun 13, 16:24

Vickingo wrote:Guido Pizarro takes Exequiel Palacios' place cause he got injured.

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can update the title of the topic please victor? Just is "eating my head" reading that

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