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Joël Veltman

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Re: Joël Veltman

Postby Roy » 2015 Jul 29, 20:38

He sucks so bad.
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Re: Joël Veltman

Postby mcmattie » 2015 Jul 30, 08:30

It's becoming a bit funny how often you post how average/terrible/bad he is ;)
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Re: Joël Veltman

Postby Fides » 2015 Sep 15, 06:59

I think this set is a bit over-the-top. I mean, he can be this bad, but with the form 3 value he will be this bad and often perform worse because of his shit form. Thats too much I believe.

Physically he is indeed average, but his defensive intelligence, TW (esp. his distribution) and MENT arent this bad. If you gonna give him form 3, I would suggest 79, 77 and 75 for those 3 stats.
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Re: Joël Veltman

Postby Roy » 2015 Sep 15, 07:40

Fides wrote:I think this set is a bit over-the-top. I mean, he can be this bad, but with the form 3 value he will be this bad and often perform worse because of his shit form. Thats too much I believe.

Physically he is indeed average, but his defensive intelligence, TW (esp. his distribution) and MENT arent this bad. If you gonna give him form 3, I would suggest 79, 77 and 75 for those 3 stats.


He's been marginally better lately. I believe all could be a couple points higher, but I won't raise MENT that much, it's one of his weaker points.

Form is either probably 4. He's consistently bad, so I guess 4 should be right.

Updated.

I mean, he has some potential, he can be a fairly good defender when he gets a bit older. But right now, he's just a ticking timebomb. He can play decent matches and then suddenly make a huge mistake, and then he just fucks up so badly. I mean, not to say he's a great player outside of his mistakes, because he isn't, but his mistakes definitely make him a lot less useful in the end. His mistakes are always huge for some reason, as soon as he makes a mistake, he fucks up so badly the team either conceides a goal or gets dangerously close to it.

This set still puts him ahead of Riedewald. I'm actually fairly certain the 2 are about on par, only Riedewald is slightly more reliable, and technically not as gifted.
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Re: Joël Veltman

Postby kaiser29 » 2016 Mar 29, 14:58

just a curiosity: why does he have the 1-1 Scoring special ability? isn't it a bit odd for a defender?
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Re: Joël Veltman

Postby mcmattie » 2016 Mar 29, 15:14

Not sure he needs it either. Would prefer slightly higher SA for instance instead of the star.
Btw, add SB and Side: R.
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Re: Joël Veltman

Postby Quintero10 » 2016 May 25, 18:10

With the departure of Mat Hummels, Veltman is the CLOSEST thing to hummels and BVB would wise to snap him up, his passing and added dribbing flair are his strength. His defensive ability will only get better particularly if he moves to BVB. Tuchel will make him into a beast
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Re: Joël Veltman

Postby Maracanazo » 2018 Jan 04, 08:29

any news from him?
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