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Ryad Boudebouz

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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby midnight » 2013 Jul 21, 22:22

Taking in count the form , i think those suggestion are pretty much spot on , tbh i wanted to suggest the 84 long ago but i hesitated a lot , and i agree about his short passing aswell but i'd rather keep it on 82 as i think that the gap between his long and short passing should be higher and in favor of the 1st aspect of his game , i also am satisfied with it after a long testing period .
about lps , from what i remember of him he can still show some slow and interceptable passes a bit too frequently for a 81 even if i don't doubt his capacity to bring the speed to his passes . i personally prefer a 79/80 .

his vision needs to be brought back to it's previous value as he can still provide his team with some intelligent passes while displaying a good decision making sense even in his bad/decent matches .

i like the TW value , like you already mentionned it he can be a very reliable player when it comes to support if on form , and it's a very nice combination with his very low ment and decent resp ( which can be dropped to a 75 imo) to replicate his unmotivated supporting movements that can still get noticed eventhough, thanks to his frequent supportive movement , nothing to add to about tech , its one of the qualities that doesn't get weakened that much by his low form so a raise would be suiting imo .

edit: i think the sa is a tad generous , it makes a too much of a placer in game , a two points downgrade wouldn't hurt imo.
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby Adrien » 2013 Jul 22, 03:15

Yeah about SA he doesn't place it at all but I'm not sure for a decrease, we sometimes rate it may be too low, Konami rate him at 76 too, why not something 74, not sure yet.

About stats like SP/SPS it should be rate more on potential than frequency I think, because you can regulate it yourself in game. A players can choose when he want to put full speed on his crosses or not, and Boudebouz is able to make some fast long passes, and several times in the same games.
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby midnight » 2013 Sep 02, 22:45

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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby Adrien » 2013 Sep 03, 08:32

They building a nice team, they already bought Krasic, Landreau, Squilacci and Romaric. All of this with very few money. Only 1M€ for Boudebouz is such a deal :D
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby midnight » 2013 Oct 05, 12:48

his performance against Lorient was the best i've seen since 2011 , he is much more motivated now and has polished his game to prove that he's worth of being a regular starter in his new team , his short passes cling more to the pitch now and he's playing very smartly every time he gets the ball.
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby Adrien » 2013 Oct 05, 19:54

His motivation could be understable. Sochaux is not still giving motivation ^^... but at the opposite Bastia have a nice project. The team they built make me having interrest on them. I didn't see the match but I want to see them. At least more than what I did, only saw them one times against Monaco.
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby midnight » 2013 Nov 10, 12:43

Excellent pass from him:

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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby midnight » 2014 Mar 08, 14:51

I don't feel like this set represents him anymore , even with form 4 except lpa-lps , sa-sp-st , agi and ds the rest is really too much for him and isn't necessary at all , i.e we gave him 90 da tp replicate the way he keeps the ball glued to his feets when dribbling , though from a more literal point of view of da he tops 87 there .

Considering the att decrease of Kadir , Ryad is at least 3 points lower than him in this aspect , the way he creates danger is very simple , the spaces he occupies to threaten the defence are only natural and don't require much attacking intelligence (not reffering to overall smartness) , he's at 75 at best .

His short passes are quite sloppy sps-wise , he should've never had anything higher than 75/76 there and the very rare times he does show anything higher he won't recidivate in similar situation like a masterful passer would do .

There are a few slight decreases that i'd like to propose too , his speed is nothing special at all , actually he's lost a real lot of pace since 2011 and now struggles to beat any decently paced player especially in longer runs , he's 81acc 76/77 ts for me. i'd also prefer to see tech at 87, res at 75 and jump at 69-70.

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Name: BOUDEBOUZ

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Number: ?
Position: AMF*, SMF, CMF
Nationality: Algerian _alg
Age: 20 (xx-yy-1994)

Foot: L
Side: B

Length: 177
Weight: 59

Attack: 74
Defence: 45
Balance: 76
Stamina: 78
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 81
Response: 75
Agility: 83
Dribble Accuracy: 86
Dribble Speed: 81
Short Pass Accuracy: 81
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 84
Long Pass Speed: 81
Shot Accuracy: 75
Shot Power: 83
Shot Technique: 78
Free Kick Accuracy: 78
Curling: 82
Header: 65
Jump: 69
Technique: 86
Aggression: 73
Mentality: 68
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 82

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 4

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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby Adrien » 2014 Mar 08, 17:45

I have several vs videos of him with Bastia to watch before giving you some feedback to your suggestions but I agree from what I seen. He really has no ment... a shame that he's such bad in some game with the abilities he could have, he just don't move his ass.
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby midnight » 2014 Mar 08, 19:12

Take your time theres no rushing , i doubt he'll play this WC because of the way he behaves (he wasn't called for the last friendly) , and yeah, i agree with the fact that he is potentially a great playmaker .
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby Adrien » 2014 Jun 11, 13:51

Updated,

I took a lot of the values you gave, feets pretty well. I just keep his BC higher, he really stilll have a great first touches. Something he display at a good level constantly.

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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby midnight » 2014 Sep 12, 19:25



100% of his crosses/long through passes were dangerous in this game , also nice piece of skills at 2:33 .
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

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Finally a good update you're right about all that.
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby Fixer » 2018 Feb 28, 12:28

He feels way too fast with these. My impression on him is that he's low 70's for DS, even if he's to dribble he prefers step overs and feints, also when he's had to sprint he's seemed sluggish. ACC Seems too high, perhaps it ought to be slightly higher than TS but my impression of him is more like:

73 TS
77 ACC
70/71 DS
77 AGI

I'm satisfied with the rest of the set so far, 89 seems like a perfect value for a guy like him's DA too.
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby Fixer » 2018 Feb 28, 15:29

Caught him as a starter in the last few matches. Didn't watch Betis at the start of the season as regularly as I do now, and he's participated everytime. Still not enough impact, but he's getting there. He's getting into the team dynamic and he is indeed showing stuff. So far, I like him. Yea what you said is true, he tends not to run with the ball too much and even when he does he doesn't even seem like he's sprinting. He's probably a player who can muster a decent amount of DS, but so far I've seen nothing of that. Perhaps a trick or a dribble here and there, not as much as I expected, but very effectively, and mostly tactical dribbles. Betis' system forces players to act a bit like that, and you can see that regarding Joaquín. There was (a few days ago) a discussion regarding his actual speed...he doesn't show it that much, but he's not slow it's true, it's kinda fitting to the team system....maybe Boudebouz is under the same circumstances, but so far, he's doing good.
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby Fixer » 2018 Mar 13, 00:33

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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby KeyserSoze » 2018 Mar 13, 01:25

I would rate his DEF on an even worse level. I mean, any time I've seen he's demanded to track back and provide some extra defensive supportiveness when needing to keep the result for Betis, he commits tons of fouls and he usually gets booked in the process. It is not that he doesn't even try anyway. He just lacks the prowess to tackle and press opposition properly. A good example of this was when Betis won last Derbi Sevillano against Sevilla. He commited like 2 or 3 fouls in just about 5 mins or so, and he was so lucky not to see a yellow card in that amount of time.

I feel you can safely lower his DEF to mid 30s.
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Re: Ryad Boudebouz

Postby Eternal Night » 2019 May 18, 21:13

AMF with very good technical skills, but he has not shown that level of Attack in La Liga. It's very suspicious that Betis has given this player to Celta and, more or less, I see the reasons. Lack of sacrifice, very poor defender, no winning mentality, a little lazy... He isn't very fast and sometimes he lacks a bit of agility to get differences in the last few meters.
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