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Hatem Ben Arfa

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 14, 10:54

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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Steven Gerrard » 2012 Apr 09, 21:50

This is not‏‎ a normal player, it`s supernatural .
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Steven Gerrard » 2012 Apr 09, 21:52

This is not‏‎ a normal player, it`s supernatural .
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Shollym » 2012 Apr 10, 13:47

Top speed 83?
hmmm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 0eoCUumBsk
I don't think so (same as Messi, this video proves my point).
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Adrien » 2012 Apr 10, 14:05

Yes his TS can be raise by few points but you shouldn't compare this run with Messi because Messi stop his runs before fixing his opponents and also only use Acceleration. Ben Arfa sometimes do this and sometimes make a pure run like this wich need a good TS.

By the way, I don't find him better than before, he was already able to score some goals like this at Lyon. I remember a beautiful goals againt Rennes on LIgue 1. His problem is that he is immature, inconsistent and lazzy. If he resolve this problem, he can be one of the best player on the world and that's it since he is 17 years old but every season he had some problem with his club and his coach because he is immature.
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby nonobus » 2012 Apr 10, 17:05

Mr. Evans wrote:@tasmin
True, I still have a bit of hope. Just frustrates me to such a talented player not perform at the level he's supposed to.

@Stu
I know but he's been like that since his time in France.

Btw, I think his ACC and DS could arguably go up. And I'd give his LPA a considerable boost tbh.


I put him at TS:85/ ACC:95/ DS:95 and also TEC:90.
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby zinaldo1982 » 2012 Apr 19, 18:34

Just to say that hatem needs to be updated,i would say acceleration could go up to 91 and top speed to 88 but the obvious increase should be to his technique and dribbling speed i would put his technique at 92 and DS at 92 thanks.
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby tasmin » 2012 Apr 20, 06:25

i think you are crazy ? 88 TS ? he never shows that much speed not even 85. current TS is actually more than realism !

any way i would give him more acc though . 92/93. and slightly better ds. +2 point. technique 88 is fine if not 89. not orange yet.
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby tasmin » 2012 May 01, 17:58

Mr. Evans wrote: And I'd give his LPA a considerable boost tbh.


100 % agree with that. his long passing has been amazing last few matches. i was thinking of mid yellows ,
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Los Muchachos » 2012 Jun 11, 10:15



DS= 95
Agility=95
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby tasmin » 2012 Jun 11, 12:44

don't need to post those videos. all mods have watched him full season and he has been updated with some changes.

as i said he could be a 92/93 ds but we will see ! he is no way that agile though.
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Adrien » 2012 Jun 11, 19:25

In the last four games I saw with the NT, I don't find him very different than before, still a selfish player who never make the good choise. And he still have his amazing dribble skills.

I think his attack should be decrease to 79-80. I really find him under Valbuena and Ménez. He never make the good choise, always loose the ball by selfish choise or because he has no vision of the games. He don't find the games, he only try to find space to trick player and make a run. May be he can appear fantastic in an opportunity like he had with Newastle (a game with space who he can trick player and make a fast run). But he really don't have vision, he don't feel the games.
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby vinnie » 2012 Jun 11, 19:37

I would agree to that... 80 ATK sounds good. I would even say 78-79 ATK is suitable for him, and lower. He just tries to dribble everyone :P

Also, DS 91-92... i agree to that.
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Los Muchachos » 2012 Jun 12, 01:30

Yep i also agree with attack 80.
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Steven Gerrard » 2012 Aug 25, 01:50

The speed reduction Ben Arfa?
To have done so, you can Ben Arfa to
do Berkshire Hathaway, in fact.
I think you are mistaken.
Must raise the value of speed to
85-86
If he's not worth that value must find
a solution in order to be an excellent
player in PES12 like Bmaeleh in fact.
Sorry fo my English . . .
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Josh » 2012 Aug 25, 09:20

Steven Gerrard wrote:The speed reduction Ben Arfa?
To have done so, you can Ben Arfa to
do Berkshire Hathaway, in fact.
I think you are mistaken.
Must raise the value of speed to
85-86
If he's not worth that value must find
a solution in order to be an excellent
player in PES12 like Bmaeleh in fact.
Sorry fo my English . . .


That is possibly the biggest load of gibberish I've read on this forum. :lol:
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby tuco55 » 2012 Aug 25, 09:30

On mushrooms it makes complete sense :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkshire_Hathaway
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby BigStu » 2012 Aug 25, 09:33

what the fudge
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Adrien » 2012 Aug 25, 09:52

I'm still surprise to see him sitting at 82 on attack. He's he really showed good movements and intelligence at Newcastle. He always affraid me on that point, even Menez he sometimes better.
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby vinnie » 2012 Aug 25, 09:59

anonyme wrote:In the last four games I saw with the NT, I don't find him very different than before, still a selfish player who never make the good choise. And he still have his amazing dribble skills.

I think his attack should be decrease to 79-80. I really find him under Valbuena and Ménez. He never make the good choise, always loose the ball by selfish choise or because he has no vision of the games. He don't find the games, he only try to find space to trick player and make a run. May be he can appear fantastic in an opportunity like he had with Newastle (a game with space who he can trick player and make a fast run). But he really don't have vision, he don't feel the games.

But you said this not so long ago. :)
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Re: Hatem BEN ARFA

Postby Adrien » 2012 Aug 25, 13:02

Yes and nobody (a EPL follower) answer.
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