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Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Apr 06, 23:13


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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Aug 24, 15:05

As soon as he starts to play, he will be updated. He's simply a phenom. I would suggest to take a look on team work and defence. Sure both should go up. I would say TW: 84 and DEF: 76.

P.S.: Can I make some changes on the first post?
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby Looke » 2010 Aug 24, 15:20

Was he really that good for last couple of months to give him an update?
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby Jez » 2010 Aug 24, 15:23

If there's changes that would have been made anyway then yeah go for it! Just let me know what you change and I can post it up in the update thread :)
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Aug 24, 17:41

Well, I believe there's some interesting changes that should be done, based on the evolution of Sandro since last year, Looke.

But, if there's objections to this, I will post what should be made and let's wait for other opinions:

1. Defence: his main asset. No doubt of that, his tackling is simply awesome, and along with his body strength is what makes him an impassable barrier. He should be at the top of brazilian league, along with Pierre. So, for me, the best number is 76.

2. Stamina: this is just a minor change, and just a question of brazilian ladders. I would rate at 86, but as I said, is more a question of correcting brazilian ladders. I believe he should be on pair with Pierre, Edinho, and other players of the ladder.

3. Acceleration: should be higher, and isn't a question of ladder. His big and strong legs makes him good on first meters, but he still got decent speed. I would rate him at 78.

4. Jump: still unsure, but I believe he should go some points higher.

5. Team Work: impressive. Always playing with his head up, always looking for the best pass, although isn't a killer passer. Also, his combination and adjustment with defense always have been impressive. I would rate at 85, on pair with Gilberto Silva.
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby brazilianpesfan » 2010 Aug 24, 18:59

I agree with pedala. IMO, his acc could be even on 79

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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby adieet » 2010 Sep 05, 13:12

Enforcer ?
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Sep 07, 02:37

No, he's a P04 - Anchor Man. He works pretty much as a sweeper, protecting and covering the defence. Looks like a lot an upgrade of Gilberto Silva. I would give this cards:

S07 - Man Marking
S09 - Covering
P04 - Anchor Man
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby adieet » 2010 Sep 07, 17:42

Maybe i missunderstood his explanation ;)
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby Angel of Death » 2010 Sep 08, 05:57

The cards seem fine ;)
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby marcelocarlosbr » 2010 Oct 29, 14:57

Needs an update in the first post. He is now playing for Tottenham Hotspur FC.
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby John » 2010 Oct 29, 15:08

i hope you're not talking about his stats, right?
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Oct 29, 15:19

Added cards and changed team. Anyways, he still needs a small update.
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby John » 2010 Oct 29, 15:21

and the picture please, he looks like a transvestite-paedophile sort of guy :|
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Oct 29, 15:24

I need a better picture --'... Someone can help?
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby ThaReaper01 » 2010 Oct 29, 21:16

pedala robinho wrote:Name: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

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Club: Tottenham Hostpur
Number: 30
Position: *DMF*, CMF
Nationality: _bra Brazilian
Age: 21 (March 15, 1989)

Foot: R
Side: B

Length: 187
Weight: 75



We could use this one until we get one with him playing for Spurs.
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby .Maguss. » 2010 Nov 08, 22:33

According to the medias here, he isn't playing. Why? Is he injuried or something?
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby Jez » 2010 Nov 08, 23:59

He's played a couple of games and been poor. Harry has said he will come good, but he's clearly been struggling to adapt to the English game
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby ThaReaper01 » 2010 Nov 09, 00:03

He didn't have any pre-season with the club. Maybe that's hurt him in a settling down, grasping the language aspect.
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby Paddy » 2010 Nov 09, 00:16

Arguably a worse finisher than Paalcios.
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Re: SANDRO Ranieri Guimarães Cordeiro

Postby pedala robinho » 2010 Nov 09, 01:00

I already said he deserves an update. He isn't a good finisher, he's so close to Lucas, what isn't true. I see him about 67/68 on SA and ST. SP also would be fine at 84-85. He's also faster and quicker, though he does not seems to be. His speed is deceptive, his long legs allows him to do large steps. He's easily bordering a 80 for TS and 78-79 for ACC. With the increase on TS/ACC ratio, I would also decrease his BB to 86, though I do think he's REALLY strong. The way he push way his opponents is impressive, but as a 187/75 guy, he doesn't need a so high value. He's also a better short passer than Lucas (who I see a bit over on passing skills), but he's more conservative. He keeps simple passes, while Lucas is more audacious. I would say Lucas SPS is probably better than Sandro, but Sandro SPA should be one point higher. I'm more inclined to give Lucas a SPA 80/SPS 82 and keeping Sandro as it is on first post. His LPA is well rated for now IMO, but his LPS should be simple higher, easily a 80. He generally puts a decent power on his long passes, and I already have seen him doing some amazing long passes from the defence to the attack.

Also his Header and Jump are overrated. His Header shouldn't be over 79: he isn't really a better header than Lucas, and I think Pato is way better than him when it comes to putting strength and direction on the ball with the head. Jump could be a 80, he isn't something impressive there. He mostly relies on his body strength to win aerial duels.

Technique shouldn't be under Lucas, IMO. At least on pair. His first touch is sweet and smooth, IMO a softer trapping of the ball than Lucas.

And for last, but not least: would increase his TW to 83, one point over Lucas. He's so vocal, a leader on the midfield, dotted with calm and always doing the correct decisions.

So, IMO:

BB: 86
TS: 80
ACC: 79
RES: 83
LPS: 80
SA: 67
SP: 84~85
ST: 68
HDR: 79
JMP: 80
TEC: 82
TW: 83

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