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Andrés Iniesta | 2004-2006 | 2009-2011 | 2011-2013 | 2014-2015

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Sep 12, 09:59

Nickname: "El Ilusionista" ("The Illusionist") | "El Anti-Galáctico" ("The Anti-Galáctico") | "Cerebro" ("The Brain") | "Don Andrés"

Club: FC Barcelona



S13 - Step On Skills
S20 - Double Touch
S22 - Sombrero


Growth type: Standard/Lasting

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Iniesta at his best. Sharper and - specially - more consistent than ever.

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Re: Andrés Iniesta | 2004-2006 | 2009-2011 | 2011-2013 | 2014-2015

Postby Whoah10115 » 2019 Nov 14, 03:18

88 ATT is good for Iniesta. He shouldn't be as high as either Figo or Zidane (tho could argue those two could go up).

82 LPA is obviously way too low, but not 94. And his SPA at 94 is also fair. He isn't as good a passer as Cesc, who is too low anyway.

He's faster than this tho, I think. Probably two points. Or maybe a point and raise ACC.
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Postby vegitot » 2019 Nov 14, 04:53

Whoah10115 wrote:88 ATT is good for Iniesta. He shouldn't be as high as either Figo or Zidane (tho could argue those two could go up).

82 LPA is obviously way too low, but not 94. And his SPA at 94 is also fair. He isn't as good a passer as Cesc, who is too low anyway.

He's faster than this tho, I think. Probably two points. Or maybe a point and raise ACC.

i dont see how can zidane have higher att stat than iniesta. zidane may scored more goals but that is all about finishing abiliti,not even to mention zidane took team's penalties.
iniesta offensive movement was better.
Cesc was good passer but no,he wasnt as good as iniesta. 94 spa is even lower than his 14-16 set which is 96. that is absurd
compare to xavi,for example,xavi 2010/2011 had 4,7 key passes per match in liga+ucl,iniesta had 3,7 yet in there it looks like iniesta is hundred times worse than xavi in term of passing.
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Re: Andrés Iniesta | 2004-2006 | 2009-2011 | 2011-2013 | 2014-2015

Postby Suji » 2019 Nov 14, 14:22

94 seriously?
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Postby Suji » 2019 Nov 14, 14:29

vegitot wrote:
Suji wrote:Where did his 15/16 set go?? It showed his evolution as a player perfectly. He had around 88-90 LPA and 96 SPA there.

iniesta 2015/2016 was incredible but do you think he was better than his peak from 08/09 to 12/13?
82 lpa for iniesta is stupid. his lpa deserved orange.

It's quite obvious he was past his prime in the 15/16 season, but he was given more LPA there to show his development in that state. I'm not saying 82 is the right value for the prime Iniesta, I think an 85-86 value would've been better, but he definitely can't have better LPA in that set than the 15/16 set as he didn't started hitting orange lofted balls consistently until 2014/15.
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Re: Andrés Iniesta | 2004-2006 | 2009-2011 | 2011-2013 | 2014-2015

Postby Whoah10115 » 2019 Nov 14, 14:40

vegitot wrote:
Whoah10115 wrote:88 ATT is good for Iniesta. He shouldn't be as high as either Figo or Zidane (tho could argue those two could go up).

82 LPA is obviously way too low, but not 94. And his SPA at 94 is also fair. He isn't as good a passer as Cesc, who is too low anyway.

He's faster than this tho, I think. Probably two points. Or maybe a point and raise ACC.

i dont see how can zidane have higher att stat than iniesta. zidane may scored more goals but that is all about finishing abiliti,not even to mention zidane took team's penalties.
iniesta offensive movement was better.
Cesc was good passer but no,he wasnt as good as iniesta. 94 spa is even lower than his 14-16 set which is 96. that is absurd
compare to xavi,for example,xavi 2010/2011 had 4,7 key passes per match in liga+ucl,iniesta had 3,7 yet in there it looks like iniesta is hundred times worse than xavi in term of passing.



Zidane is clearly a better player than Iniesta. Higher ATT isn't about higher scoring numbers. Iniesta is an all-time great but Zidane could push for top 10.

Comparing key passes between Iniesta and Xavi is difficult because Xavi's greatness as a passer had most to do with controlling, and Iniesta is one of the great dribblers, playing higher up the field.

And on Cesc, he just isn't. Cesc was absurd. The passing range, accuracy, and ability to put someone thru...range and the latter he was the best, and had more natural vision than any player in the world then, with Ronaldinho's freakiness the only to compare.

Iniesta created a lot of his passes thru his dribbling.
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Postby vegitot » 2019 Nov 15, 04:01

Whoah10115 wrote:
vegitot wrote:
Whoah10115 wrote:88 ATT is good for Iniesta. He shouldn't be as high as either Figo or Zidane (tho could argue those two could go up).

82 LPA is obviously way too low, but not 94. And his SPA at 94 is also fair. He isn't as good a passer as Cesc, who is too low anyway.

He's faster than this tho, I think. Probably two points. Or maybe a point and raise ACC.

i dont see how can zidane have higher att stat than iniesta. zidane may scored more goals but that is all about finishing abiliti,not even to mention zidane took team's penalties.
iniesta offensive movement was better.
Cesc was good passer but no,he wasnt as good as iniesta. 94 spa is even lower than his 14-16 set which is 96. that is absurd
compare to xavi,for example,xavi 2010/2011 had 4,7 key passes per match in liga+ucl,iniesta had 3,7 yet in there it looks like iniesta is hundred times worse than xavi in term of passing.



Zidane is clearly a better player than Iniesta. Higher ATT isn't about higher scoring numbers. Iniesta is an all-time great but Zidane could push for top 10.

Comparing key passes between Iniesta and Xavi is difficult because Xavi's greatness as a passer had most to do with controlling, and Iniesta is one of the great dribblers, playing higher up the field.

And on Cesc, he just isn't. Cesc was absurd. The passing range, accuracy, and ability to put someone thru...range and the latter he was the best, and had more natural vision than any player in the world then, with Ronaldinho's freakiness the only to compare.

Iniesta created a lot of his passes thru his dribbling.

zidane isnt bettee than either iniesta or xaci. in fact,iniesta is better than him,by distance. Xavi as well.
Zidane usually team main chance creator,he had a team built around him while iniesta and xavi shared their chance creator role,with messi as well. they built and ran the team,not vice versa like zidane. so you could see zidane take more spotlight than xavi/iniesta. Can zidane dominate back to back european champion,bang 4 assists at stadium like bernabeu,humilated real madrid at their own backyard?
xavi is slightly better passer than iniesta. iniesta had a wider role than xavi. xavi usually played at centre. key passes stats show that xavi was better at passing,but not so much yet look at iniesta's pes stats here,he was 100 times worse.
Cesc and Dinho were very good,unpredictable but xavi/iniesta are still better.
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Re: Andrés Iniesta | 2004-2006 | 2009-2011 | 2011-2013 | 2014-2015

Postby Whoah10115 » 2019 Nov 26, 01:12

Yeah that's not true so will have to politely disagree.
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Postby vegitot » 2019 Dec 02, 13:42

Whoah10115 wrote:Yeah that's not true so will have to politely disagree.

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