Frank de Boer | 1994-1996


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Frank de Boer | 1994-1996

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Aug 01, 23:48

Club: AFC Ajax



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De Boer began his career as a left back at Ajax before switching to centre back, a position he made his own for many years in the national team. He won both the UEFA Cup and Champions League while at Ajax. However, after signing a 6-year contract extension with Ajax for the 1998–99 season, he and his twin brother Ronald took successful legal action to have it voided. Ajax had agreed orally that if a lucrative offer for one brother came by, he would be released provided the other stayed. However Ajax apparently backed down on that agreement after floating the club on the stock market and pledging to shareholders that it would hold both of the de Boers and build around them a team to recapture the UEFA Champions League.

Both de Boers then joined FC Barcelona for 22 million pounds. However, they were unable to repeat his earlier triumphs and Frank suffered the ignominy of testing positive for the banned substance nandrolone. De Boer was suspended but he was reinstated after a successful appeal
He briefly moved to Galatasaray in the summer of 2003 before joining Rangers in January 2004. He left Rangers in 2004 after Euro 2004 along with twin brother Ronald (his teammate at Ajax, Barcelona and Rangers) to play the rest of his football career in Qatar with Al-Rayyan.
De Boer announced his retirement from football in April 2006.


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Re: Frank DE BOER

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Re: Frank DE BOER

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Aug 02, 00:01



But that's the Prime one. Fides will use this FDB on his classic ajax.
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Re: Frank DE BOER | 1994-96

Postby Fides » 2009 Aug 02, 00:03

This one is really made for the 94-96 period. And I dont think the other one is really accurate either, de Boer was technically really good for a CB and really comfortable with the ball on his feet.
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Re: Frank DE BOER | 1994-96

Postby Brezza » 2009 Aug 02, 00:12

sorry my bad, you didnt include the era last time i looked. :oops:

Is it worth keeping the other thread?
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Re: Frank DE BOER | 1994-96

Postby Fides » 2009 Aug 02, 00:27

Hmm, I would say no. Because I cant really see in what team you will using them. In his Ajax-period this was his peak. And for his Barca period you will need another set of stats.
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Re: Frank DE BOER | 1994-1996

Postby mcmattie » 2010 Dec 07, 18:04

Could you add cards please? :)
I think at least Pinpoint Pass.
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Re: Frank DE BOER | 1994-1996

Postby Luxo0x0 » 2010 Dec 31, 18:43

De Boer deserves Deep Cover, Pintpoint Pass and the ones which are already as Special Abilities IMHO
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Re: Frank DE BOER | 1994-1996

Postby mcmattie » 2011 Jan 22, 17:57

Does this set represent him for all his career btw? I don't think he was the same during his entire career.
I see him as one of the best Dutch defenders of all time. He played 519 competition games and 112 caps! So I expect his stamina to be a bit higher and a higher condition.
I also expect his defence and balance to be higher in his prime.
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Re: Frank DE BOER | 1994-1996

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Re: Frank DE BOER | 1994-1996

Postby jupes » 2012 Mar 03, 14:55

mcmattie wrote:Does this set represent him for all his career btw? I don't think he was the same during his entire career.
I see him as one of the best Dutch defenders of all time. He played 519 competition games and 112 caps! So I expect his stamina to be a bit higher and a higher condition.
I also expect his defence and balance to be higher in his prime.


Yeah, the set seems too modest for prime De Boer.

De Boer in his best years was somewhat similar to Hierro. Slow but excellent defenders with great passing and dead-ball abilities.

DF in the area of 86-89 (he simply cannot be lower than prime Mathijsen)
ACC: should be white, while TS may be yellow (his deceptive slowness was why he was considered an ineffective LB)
RES: an orange value at minimum; very, very alert defender (it's why he was often compared to the Italians)
LPA: 88

And a raise in mentality and teamwork. Great leader, great mentality, even fighting himself back into the Euro 04 squad when his body looked deteriorated.

For some evidence of his defensive prowess/mentality, I present:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frgN1MFyRFY#t=07m53s
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Re: Frank DE BOER | 1994-1996

Postby Adrien » 2013 Nov 17, 14:51

I noticed it too. His passing are really great, Konami value for all passing skills make him justice, he put a lot of pace on short passes too. Konami set looks pretty good except for response, it's a good set to start really. He looks effectively like a responsive center back going out of his defensive lines for tackle sometimes. I mean at least decent yellow response, but not as low as the 72 gave by Konami. Need to watch more, will post my tought when I will have a definitive idea.
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Re: Frank de Boer | 1994-1996

Postby Yazid » 2017 May 31, 00:05

85LPA? That seems far too low from my memory, gonna go back and try and watch some footage.
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Re: Frank de Boer | 1994-1996

Postby Albo7 » 2017 Sep 17, 23:59

Apparently the post I made in here for Reiziger/Frank de Boer was the only one I couldn't recover from the site issues. So sorry for the inconvenience guys, but I was really lazy in having to re-write, so I'm gonna make this as short as I can.

Considering the amount of dangerous crosses and through balls F de Boer gave from the deep, his Att was far too low. Def as well was over-rated on both of them. Frank was a good defender but thinking that he was the one taking Rijkaards place in the formation, he really wasn't as effective as Rijkaard was in the defensive aspect, at least in this point of his career. I know he became better as he aged and moved to a far more defensive role and became a full CB later in his career, but at this point I really see nothing more than an 83 for def. At this period of time, De Boer often found himself in bad defensive positions and especially had problems when reacting to fast wingers (hence the much lower resp). He was a good coverer for the team, but was often exposed to his lack of tempo. Ajax really missed Rijkaards security in 96. Btw, I can't really understand how we ever rated Reiziger in yellow def in here tho? Reiziger was nothing near a yellow value for def, I can remember countless times the team was in danger in the right side because of him being too slow to react to danger, or not a good enough tackler. He wasn't about good tackling and making defensive interceptions, he was a very very fast defender, who lived by his defensive covering , his pace and his energy which allowed him to hound defenders around and be a constant defensive "threat" to them. Frank de Boer on the other hand was much more chilled as a defender, I actually gave him a 79 for Stamina at first, considering he really rarely tried to fully sprint, and was all about finding the right time when to do the running, and when to do the actual zonal defending (which needed no huge amount of stamina waste).

Another great aspect in their games was the constant long balls and through balls they both used to give out to the offense. De Boer was much more inclined in the former, and I can't say Reiziger was as accurate as he was in long balls, but I do think he possessed the exact same amount of range de Boer had, if not more. Both Reiziger and Frank de Boer were much more inclined to pass it from the deep, rather than to dribble with the ball in their feet.

I found Reiziger to be the much more direct player and more inclined to join the attack from the side, his speed was his best weapon in his arsenal, and he surely liked to use it alot, both offensively and defensively. While Frank was the much stronger and clumsier defender, who was all about using good powerful tackles, but who also possessed an insane amount of technical effectivity (like his brother), which allowed him to be a much more resourceful asset for the team (for example he could play various roles, the complicated SW role included). He also had an insane accuracy for taking short free kicks, I recall a match I saw of his vs Vitesse where he shot 3 short fks, and scored one, hit the post with one, and completely beat the keeper just to miss the post for very little in the last one. I surely find him being up there in the oranges for FKA, just watch any video of his in Youtube, I guarantee you'll be amazed by his free kicks.
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Re: Frank de Boer | 1994-1996

Postby .Maguss. » 2018 May 12, 01:39

I didn’t followed this guy’s career, but I was watching Brazil x Netherlands from 98 WC these days, and then I saw this: https://youtu.be/01BVCi4_qNg

I can easily say it is one of the best defensive moves I’ve ever watched. He was able to slide from behind of Ronaldo, put his foot between Ronaldo’s legs and hit the ball, all that inside the penalty box. A very risk move, and he did that perfectly, against one of the best strikers of all time in his prime.

I know one move doesn’t mean much, but it seems a way too good move for someone with only 83 in defense and 77 in Response.
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Re: Frank de Boer | 1994-1996

Postby Turambur » 2018 May 25, 21:15

.Maguss. wrote:I didn’t followed this guy’s career, but I was watching Brazil x Netherlands from 98 WC these days, and then I saw this: https://youtu.be/01BVCi4_qNg

I can easily say it is one of the best defensive moves I’ve ever watched. He was able to slide from behind of Ronaldo, put his foot between Ronaldo’s legs and hit the ball, all that inside the penalty box. A very risk move, and he did that perfectly, against one of the best strikers of all time in his prime.

I know one move doesn’t mean much, but it seems a way too good move for someone with only 83 in defense and 77 in Response.


This is from '98 WC! This set is for his '94-'96 years. He may need another one for 1998-2000 years, WC98, Euro2000 and playing in Barcelona, when he was more a CB-SW, and was better in DEF and way better in LPA/LPS.

Anyway, this is a very good set for his Ajax days!
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Re: Frank de Boer | 1994-1996

Postby Albo7 » 2018 Jul 08, 21:10

.Maguss. wrote:I didn’t followed this guy’s career, but I was watching Brazil x Netherlands from 98 WC these days, and then I saw this: https://youtu.be/01BVCi4_qNg

I can easily say it is one of the best defensive moves I’ve ever watched. He was able to slide from behind of Ronaldo, put his foot between Ronaldo’s legs and hit the ball, all that inside the penalty box. A very risk move, and he did that perfectly, against one of the best strikers of all time in his prime.

I know one move doesn’t mean much, but it seems a way too good move for someone with only 83 in defense and 77 in Response.


Albo7 wrote:I know he became better as he aged and moved to a far more defensive role and became a full CB later in his career, but at this point I really see nothing more than an 83 for def. At this period of time, De Boer often found himself in bad defensive positions and especially had problems when reacting to fast wingers
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Re: Frank de Boer | 1994-1996

Postby Turambur » 2019 May 18, 14:16

Really don't know when he started playing as a SW/CB, but in the WC 98 and FC Barcelona he was already playing there.
From what I saw, in both club and Netherlands, his main weapons where his position skills and his long balls. Konamy gaved him 84 in DEF, 73 in RES and 90 in TW. I think that I know what they tried to emulate with that. His ability to cover spaces in the back was something special, really far from wath he showed playing in as a LB. His game was more about position than deffensive skills. And thats when I had some problems with his DEF. He could play really good tackles, but was not his main ability so I opted for 86 in DEF.
Now, LPA and LPS. I always believed that he was comparable with Koeman, but I was wrong. De Boer could deliver long balls from deep position with accuracy, but was so safe doing that and his speed average, LPS is ok at 87 (same as 95's set) and LPA at 92 (?).
ATT is ok at 70, so he won't atempp incisive passes very ofthen, as they where more safe than anything.
Phisically he wasn't far from his young years. BB, jump and header should be the same. Stamina is ok with 77-78 as he was most of the time static in the back deliverying balls or intercepting, really poor moves.
AGG should drop to 65, againg, never saw him going forward.
SA and FK could keep the same stats.
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Speed needs to come down, again, his game was more static than before. So really no need for 79 in TS. AGI is ok at 75, as it is already low.
TW, as I say before, needs to be higher, to emulate his position. I go for 90, same as Konamy, and same as Sensini (I compare them both in that, but Sensini is clearly better in DEF).
TEC and DA are ok with 82 and 79 (maybe DA could come down as he didn't show that very ofthen, but I think it is ok at 79).

EDIT:
I gave him more LPS because of his way to delivery long ball from deeper position than his younger set, I was wrong giving him the same number, even could be more. Been cheacking some players with 87-88 in LPS and De Boer was better than most of them (Hummels and David Luiz for example, I see him closer to Piqué).

DS was downgraded to 70 because he was actually walking when he was on possession of the ball. So 2 point lower than before.


Name: Frank De Boer
Shirt Name: F. DE BOER
Number: 4
Positions: ★ SW, CB, SB, DM

Nationality: Dutch
Age: 29

Height: 179 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: L
Side: B

Attack: 70
Defence: 86 (+?)
Balance: 85
Stamina: 78
Top Speed: 76
Acceleration: 75
Response: 80
Agility: 75
Dribble Accuracy: 77*
Dribble Speed: 70*
Short Pass Accuracy: 85*
Short Pass Speed: 80
Long Pass Accuracy: 92
Long Pass Speed: 88
Shot Accuracy: 73
Shot Power: 88
Shot Technique: 76
Free Kick Accuracy: 91
Curling: 90
Header: 83
Jump: 82
Technique: 82
Aggression: 65
Mentality: 85
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 90

Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★ Sliding
★ Covering

PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
P06 - Pinpoint Pass
P07 - Early Cross
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering
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Re: Frank de Boer | 1994-1996

Postby Suji » 2019 May 18, 17:29

.Maguss. wrote:I didn’t followed this guy’s career, but I was watching Brazil x Netherlands from 98 WC these days, and then I saw this: https://youtu.be/01BVCi4_qNg

I can easily say it is one of the best defensive moves I’ve ever watched. He was able to slide from behind of Ronaldo, put his foot between Ronaldo’s legs and hit the ball, all that inside the penalty box. A very risk move, and he did that perfectly, against one of the best strikers of all time in his prime.

I know one move doesn’t mean much, but it seems a way too good move for someone with only 83 in defense and 77 in Response.


That's worth like 88 DEF.

EDIT : On par with nowadays Alderweireld.
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Re: Frank de Boer | 1994-1996

Postby Turambur » 2019 May 18, 17:40

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EDIT: sorry for the double post, my mistake.
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