The Scorpion wrote:Well. As everyone said. A decrease in DS and TS is obvious at this point.
JeffVR98 wrote:White DS ? seriusly? So he moves the ball like riquelme?, is better compare the players with the level you want to balanced, white look very bizzare IMO.
Korinov wrote:This set needs changes. Although I don't think CRonaldo has declined that much neither physically nor technically, his game has become more limited with the years... although it's also true he's become more efficient within these limits.
It's a difficult issue, and one we should address carefully. Nowadays he's mostly a poacher with little influence in the overall style of play of the team, just hangs around the box and waits for the right chance to butt in, or just uses his speed in counterattacks. Lowering his DS dramatically could be a start, it may replicate well his "uselessness" on the ball even if it's not completely fair regarding his potential ability.
JeffVR98 wrote:I'm only comparing his DS because is the value in discussion, also because to value something, is necessary compare, Cristiano has a low level of AGI almost close to the young riquelme(i bring riquelme to the topic because was the first one that i remember with white and green DS), also he has some electric's moves and probably is the trademark of all winger that keeps for his entire carrer.
I have in mind some value like 83-84 also i think that he will deserved 85 in DA, he looks more like Pato in that aspect.
furymaker wrote:I think all of you should read the complete discussion here and the rules around here, at least provide the reasoning why you feel like he deserves something higher, he barely ever runs with the ball and when he tries its usually kick and run and its not that fast at all, also his TS as I mentioned before, in no way is over 87 for me now, 91 is overrated value, but I'm probably fine with that for old gen pes because his DS will be white, but in newer generations 87 speed is max I'd give to him ( pes 17 )
toaad wrote:Backing to the set....think the combo da + ds just letting him unrealistic.
He is fast without the ball but when has her in his feet, although he speed up the game, Ronaldo isn't worthy player to has a 88ds (even with a 91ts) being much more a connector (seeking faster in the plays) with much objectivity in his movements (pass, shoot, "dribble") but not running with the ball... the current values let as a classic winger incisive and dribbler, which isn't real.
Treating numbers, 85-86 da and 84ds imo is ok for my suggestions.
Major general Woof wrote:Great post, toaad. Everything is on spot, I'd just like to add he is very often, because of being incomplete, a player who slows down Madrid's counterattacks. He slows down or completely stops with the ball cause he can't slip by the player or maze through the space between two. Then he might do some show off-no efficient move to take the attention away from his fail, or makes "I can' believe this" facial expressions when he gets taken down with no foul cause he's got no agility or close control to complement his speed.
The other way he can slow them down is his bad passing, he is a dangerous player nonetheless, and he can notice when his pass can be dangerous, but more than that being influenced by his lethality, his lack of accuracy makes him mess up simplest of the passes when the power on them is not right or there is absolutely no feeling for the path it should go.
With current DA+DS he is still way more of a dribbler than we actually get from him and DS could really go down to low 80s, with DA being around the middles.
furymaker wrote:guys would it be too much if he put his RES way up, like 98?
I'm thinking of putting his TS on 87ish, DS in low 80s, like 82, DA to 86 and maybe we can bump up his ATT to 97?
I think that would kinda show the difference in styles, + that MENT improvement? Thoughts?
vinnie wrote:I find that Ronaldo is still very much capable of pretty much anything technically, but he has very cleverly cut playmaking or dangerous dribbling out of his game. Ronaldo uses as few touches as possible and the benefits are that he avoids the injury risks that are much higher for technically focused players who prefer to play with the ball, and he maximizes the amount of runs and the time he spends in danger zones.
jurgens wrote:korinov clearly jinxed atletico. jealous of their succes he struck with kind words laced with hispanic voodoo.
amine wrote:Spanish vodoo is real. That’s my takeaway from this. When my gran children ask me about it, i’ll tell them about the era of xosé the great
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