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Ganso

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 May 24, 19:37

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Full Name: Paulo Henrique Chagas de Lima


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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Feb 03, 03:17

Anders wrote:
Vickingo wrote:and really he seems out of physic, he barely ran and he was static as hell, 0 support and really lazy, low commitment despite being an easy game to Sao Paulo. His teamwork seemed 50's in this game, hope he could develop better.

Look like a review for his last match against Bolivar. :lol:


Yeah, absolutely. I watched since the min. 71 when he came to the pitch and he just didn't care. I know they were winning 5-0, but still, the guy didn't move at all...it seems he was trying to evade the ball, posicionating himself behind opponents and walking all around the 19 minutes he played. His current TW sucks, as in today's game, I watched the second half and he was the same of these past matches (I can't remember the name of the small team Atlético Sorocaba, was it?), no movement at all, pretty annoying. Here's the vid:
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PS: Anders, please tell me if my comps are annoying put in here ;)

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Vs Sorocaba. Watching the game again, the 1st half was like he played previous matches, but then in 2nd half he moved a bit more and better, not hiding himself and offering a little bit more. He made crazy technical stuff like in 2:16 and 3:15, those were amazing. Still he has to develop better, he plays so much static and it seems he doesn't care at all, but when he gets the change he tries good throught balls and scores like this match.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby midnight » 2013 Feb 03, 09:59

he has a really heavy shot too , it can go up to even 86 imo , his long range goals are mostly scored by blowing the ball into the Gk , in a nice angle at times
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Anders » 2013 Feb 03, 14:35

Not sure if he's able to shot so strong. Messi is better IMO.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Feb 07, 03:06


Vs Santos. Finally he played a really good match, overall he showed crazy technique and good general dribbling and passing. Long time I was expecting a match as good as this from him despite the lost match. He moved more and better and seemed the one from 2011 in Santos. Probably he was more motivated as every time he touched the ball Santos' supporters booed him and threw him money. I really liked his game, dunno if I'm overreacting as i was waiting for a long time to see him again in a good match.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Roy » 2013 Feb 07, 09:46

He's extremely skilled, although i don't think his TW is higher dan current day Recoba
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Anders » 2013 Feb 07, 13:47

Are you suggesting a decrease? Because I disagree, he's just out of shape. A lot out of shape, probably need less form.
Btw, I don't think he need this stamina, I'm playing with 75, not sure if is too low (maybe 78 is enough.)

What you think about his Short Passing Skills, Victor, Do you think he deserve a slight higher value?
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Feb 07, 14:21

I'd like to wait a bit more, he's really out of shape and this was the 1st match he played similar of Santos' times. He's an attack master, as well as dribbler and technique, but sinceraly it wouldn't be good to judge him right now, after an injurie and adapting to a new tactic...he isn't playing a so important role as he used to be in Santos. Sometimes he seems a LCMF or a static LMF.

Btw yeah he doesn't need that stamina, now is showing a 65 or so but in shape he could have 77/78.

@Anders Am i overreacting or in your opinion he had a good game despite the lost match?
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Anders » 2013 Feb 07, 14:27

Have the same feeling about waiting more. About the game, I need to watch it entirely, to see what was his impact on the match. Because on this type of player as every touch he does is class, it gives the impression he's playing incredible good. But just by watching your video he seemed better than in the other matches.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby bruno bronze » 2013 May 05, 21:19

I suggest a decrease on stamina. 75 for him it's ok
And another point, he is not on orange levels of SPA/SPS and Ball Control.
And another thing, put a picture from him on São Paulo.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Vickingo » 2013 May 08, 02:27


His DA is just unreal as well as his overall technical abilities, Rob the other day asked me to a red value in tech and I can add red DA wouldn't be crazy at all...watch at 3.12, few spaces and the guy had to be kicked to be stopped.

Also this is a real demonstration of how much hard is to play and be decent at Copa Libertadores, even being the two teams of the same country...he was kicked a lot and the pressure on him was really high, totally different that when he plays Paulista or even the Brazilian Serie A. He's raising his level, seems a bit more the one from Santos...still he should be more adventorous at passing...still his passing ratings are ok, he does need it both.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby PanteraIFD » 2013 May 08, 14:34

I'm playing with DA 91 and it plays very well. But I think his STA, MENT and TW could be lower.
Football is very simple: who has the ball attacks, who doesn't have defends.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Aug 10, 22:30

The old Santos' Ganso was in this final Cup of Suruga Bank...awesome match from him...a shame they lost vs the japanese team.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby bruno bronze » 2013 Sep 10, 01:51

Finally. He is getting some time playing and I still don't see the Santos Ganso, is he this out of shape even with so much time playing?
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Sep 29, 22:15

I do think he's in a bad moment, despite his good game vs Fluminense...he's not the same and I doubt he will in the short time, it's pretty sad as he's talented as hell. Also I guess his role at Sao Paulo isn't that important as it was in Santos where he made what he wanted near Neymar. But the main reason is his physical shape after his serious injurie.


Again, the old Ganso was in the game of Copa Sudamericana vs Católica, showed crazy technical stuff and an assist. I insist he's a really good tackler, each game he makes at least 2 or 3 good dispossesions, smth you really wouldn't expect from a lazy guy like him.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby reydecopas » 2013 Sep 30, 00:05

He's talented as hell in my opinion one of the best N° 10 in this days i realized that maybe he's stronger than an 84 in BB He protects well the ball using his body
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby bhznet » 2013 Oct 17, 17:03

Wake up dude!!!
http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/t ... mento.html

He would be my Nº10 to WC after watching him in 2010/2011 Season.

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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Paddy » 2013 Oct 21, 20:37

Ganso is back.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Oct 22, 00:26

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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby lpsergiolp » 2013 Nov 25, 12:31

Hi, I create an account just to show you this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbTSrZ8lUKc
Ganso is a genius. Bye. =P
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Vickingo » 2014 Mar 30, 22:36


Great long range goal, he's a hell of shoter, but he's sooo passive and he isn't aggressive at all, a shame cause he would score a lot like this if he tries.

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