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Ganso

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 May 24, 19:37

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Full Name: Paulo Henrique Chagas de Lima


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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 May 11, 19:35

I cant say i am a full follower of Santos games. But it can be call "coincidence" but every time i watch Santos play (mostly Copa Libertadores or Sudamerica) he scores from FK (sometimes Elano :D) Is that frequent in all Brazilian tournaments too? If is too, i think he can have better FKA.
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Anders » 2012 May 11, 22:53

Kruger13 wrote:I cant say i am a full follower of Santos games. But it can be call "coincidence" but every time i watch Santos play (mostly Copa Libertadores or Sudamerica) he scores from FK (sometimes Elano :D) Is that frequent in all Brazilian tournaments too? If is too, i think he can have better FKA.

Nope, he don't score so frequent and his last goal the keeper helped him a lot, weak shot in the center of the goal, weak keeper same with the entire Bolivar team.
Removed his Trickster Card, Would remove the long ranger as well, he is not shooting so much from outside the box as he used.
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Vickingo » 2012 May 12, 01:17

Luisito wrote:may agresion also few points more his pretty attacking at least in the match yesterday


Are you serious? I'd go for an ever lower value, he plays a lot similar to a deeper CMF most of the times...he joins to attack very little to his position.
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Luisito » 2012 May 12, 10:40

yes he was pretty much most times on the rivals half and also keep joinin to the attacks, i guess lowerin his attack and increasin his aggresion could be a solution , i dont know may am just wrong but could make sense to make him go more forwardly , his surely not very attackin ams like a Van der Vaart o Alex de Souza but not like cms Marcos Assuncao o Montolivo either , Roman is 1 of the very few #10 best examples today for Ganso o d retired French playermaker Micoud
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Anders » 2012 Aug 25, 22:59

vickingo_73 wrote:
Luisito wrote:may agresion also few points more his pretty attacking at least in the match yesterday


Are you serious? I'd go for an ever lower value, he plays a lot similar to a deeper CMF most of the times...he joins to attack very little to his position.

I'm playing with AGG 65, Konami gave this value to Riquelme on PES 2011 and works really fine, this guy has zero of aggression; his TW is extremely poor too 75~76 at max, his movement his very minimal, he is being so lazy. Other changes, less TS 77~76 he don't use any speed and Mentality could be 69, can't see why he deserve anything higher, 73 is too close to Neymar and Riquelme for example. Form 5, with all the injuries he can't stay in a good form. His RES is good as Ronaldinho or Riquelme.

Resuming:
TS: 76~77
RES: 72
AGG: 65
MEN: 69
TW: 75~76
FORM: 5
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Brenno » 2012 Sep 02, 01:55

Oh Ganso, he was such a promising, he used to be my favorite player...but now. :cry:

I Agree with TS: 77
RES: 72
AGG: 65
MEN: 69

Disagree with both TW and FORM

TW: Should be 70-71 he have zero commiment and movement on the pitch
FORM: 4 (he can't even play five consecutive games withou getting injured how can he mantain any form?)

Actually he alredy got injured again and won't play for at least 1 month.
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby guibarneche » 2012 Sep 03, 08:15

Brenno wrote:Oh Ganso, he was such a promising, he used to be my favorite player...but now. :cry:

I Agree with TS: 77
RES: 72
AGG: 65
MEN: 69

Disagree with both TW and FORM

TW: Should be 70-71 he have zero commiment and movement on the pitch
FORM: 4 (he can't even play five consecutive games withou getting injured how can he mantain any form?)

Actually he alredy got injured again and won't play for at least 1 month.


Yeah, i agree with you. In 2010, he was my favourite player in Brazillian League, it's a shame that he showed he doesn't have the "head" to be a professional footballer.

I agree with the changes too.


BTW, what about making a classic 2009-2010 set for Ganso? He was freakin' amazing back then.
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Anders » 2012 Sep 03, 16:06

Update him, left his TW on 75, because on the beginning of the season he was making some real good movements, but now :( .
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Brenno » 2012 Sep 04, 01:35

Actually, doesn't his STA seems too high? he litteraly gets tired of walking in the field 80 is quite a high number.

OFF: Yeah he totally deserves a 2009-2010 set, if neymar have one why Ganso shouldn't have one either?
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby mhas22 » 2012 Sep 21, 12:30

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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Dimon » 2012 Sep 21, 12:53

I think that SPS exaggerated. I know that he can do some really strong passes, but with 91 he will just fire, what doesn't represent his style. For me, his SPS is 88 as max.
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Anders » 2012 Sep 21, 16:13

Moved to São Paulo.
IMO he is able to pass with even more power than SPS 91 and with more accuracy as well.
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Brenno » 2012 Sep 24, 00:36

I think that we shouldn't update anything until he starts playing again
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby rafzin » 2012 Sep 24, 23:09

Update what?
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby vinnie » 2012 Oct 01, 07:21

what's his situation? i was watching sao paolo v cortiba and didn't see him play, was kinda dissapointed (though i was impressed by some of the cortiba and sao paolo attackers, but inversely unimpressed by the defending).
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Anders » 2012 Oct 01, 12:14

He is injured.
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Dec 05, 00:01


Glad he is slowly backing to play, he's so damn fucking good...also it's so elegant to play...I'm sounding so much biased but he's one of the best aparisions at least lately imo; it's like refresh the late style of global football. Not sure if he'll play tomorrow the final of Copa Sudamericana vs Tigre in Boca's stadium, it'd be really nice to watch him playing in Argentina as vs Vélez when he hadn't a good match.
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Re: PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO

Postby Dimon » 2012 Dec 06, 19:46

Yeah, really great master.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Jan 23, 23:34


Made my first comp of him. He played vs Mirasol about 65 minutes and really he seems out of physic, he barely ran and he was static as hell, 0 support and really lazy, low commitment despite being an easy game to Sao Paulo. His teamwork seemed 50's in this game, hope he could develop better. Technically wise he's really good, a master of it...but he should work in his physic more after his long injurie. Btw, I'm happy watching him again in the field.
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Re: Paulo Henrique Ganso

Postby Anders » 2013 Jan 24, 12:41

Vickingo wrote:and really he seems out of physic, he barely ran and he was static as hell, 0 support and really lazy, low commitment despite being an easy game to Sao Paulo. His teamwork seemed 50's in this game, hope he could develop better.

Look like a review for his last match against Bolivar. :lol:

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