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Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 14:43

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby Vranny » 2008 Dec 18, 10:13

Does he really need *Side. He does like to cut in quite a bit.

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby RB7 » 2008 Dec 18, 11:17

Vranny wrote:Does he really need *Side. He does like to cut in quite a bit.


Yeah you might be right but that's only for shots with his outside of the foot.. on his general play he sticks a lot to the side I think it's good this way..
I personally don't think his TW is that low.. he had a very good number of assists and sure, he dribbles the most he cans before passing the ball but I think at least a 70 is more acceptable.. he's better there than in his mentality.
And recently he's showing more will and defends a tad more.. but not enough to get a mentality increase :lol:

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby Javier80 » 2008 Dec 21, 10:29

Is not so techinque. And his consistency is 4.

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 21, 12:29

Javier80 wrote:Is not so techinque. And his consistency is 4.

about technique, did you read here?
Pazza Interista wrote:Most recent discussion were about his Technique value.


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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby Dino » 2008 Dec 21, 13:20

Javier80 wrote:Is not so techinque. And his consistency is 4.

:lol: he's no Kalac man

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby Capone » 2008 Dec 21, 18:36

Yes, consistency should be really 4.

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby RB7 » 2008 Dec 21, 20:10

Capone wrote:Yes, consistency should be really 4.


You must be crazy. Ever thought of adaptation period? And all the season in which he was amazing for Porto doesn't count anymore???

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 21, 21:18

RB7 wrote:
Capone wrote:Yes, consistency should be really 4.


You must be crazy. Ever thought of adaptation period? And all the season in which he was amazing for Porto doesn't count anymore???


Just look at TIAGO... he took one whole year XD

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby RB7 » 2008 Dec 21, 21:23

DeFrenZ wrote:
RB7 wrote:
Capone wrote:Yes, consistency should be really 4.


You must be crazy. Ever thought of adaptation period? And all the season in which he was amazing for Porto doesn't count anymore???


Just look at TIAGO... he took one whole year XD


But he's back tracks now, even made it to the NT again ;)
Consistency isn't about three or four months.. I mean he's consistent (not the most but generally performs) and he just arrived to Italy where the play is VERY different from the one he's used too.

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 22, 11:37

I agree with updating TW at least to Robben's level.. tbh.. after seeing some old Porto matches with my friends.. I am surprised he had this low value for so long.. his team vision is.. awesome.. for sure.. it's very similar to Ronaldo's.. both have great potential when it comes to this.. but they are intentionally selfish and often fuckers so to say.. but their understanding with others around is still very decent even if they're acting like pricks..

also, his technique is overrated.. his first touch is decent and I know I've been for such high value but back then I thought different of technique and now I know in PES it's absolutely pointless to give it more value than it has.. and it is indeed only first touch.. so I suggest 92/93.. he is on par maybe slightly worse than Ronaldo at consistent superb 1st contact..

technique 92/93
team work 73/74 at least.. but indeed if he feels like being a team player during match.. he is surely worthy the same value as Ronaldo 77/78.. because somehow, someway he becomes enlightened and delivers immense passes from any positions.. also cooperates a lot better during these days.. but tbh.. only seen this during his past Porto glory days.. but like RB7 said, we probably need to wait for him.. it's surely hard to work under Mourinho..

that's my opinion..

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby Capone » 2008 Dec 23, 12:47

RB7 wrote:
Capone wrote:Yes, consistency should be really 4.


You must be crazy. Ever thought of adaptation period? And all the season in which he was amazing for Porto doesn't count anymore???



Yes, but we should update him how he plays now. The porto-time is over, so we should make his consistency-level right now. And since a half year, he only made 2 good games, and in the other games he was very bad.

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby Dino » 2008 Dec 27, 17:11

I agree with S-J32's suggestions and i disagree with Consistency 4.

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 27, 17:49

1st) how many minutes did he play right now?

2nd) I agree with that adaption thingy... you should give a player atleast a year before you can judge things such as consistency

3rd) you shouldn't neglect his performances at Porto since they were the reason he was brought to Inter

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby Bret_Hart_67 » 2008 Dec 27, 23:45

I agree with tech. 93 and TW 74 ;)

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby RB7 » 2008 Dec 30, 14:46

So now we have three agrees on:

Technique - 93
Teamwork - 74

So please update?
And I'd like to suggest a higher value for mentality.. I mean he used to be much worse in his Sporting/Barcelona days TBH.. he tracks back sometimes (rarely.. but more often than he did earlier in his career) and I'm not sure about his mentality being this low.. I'd probably go for a 70 now.. and if you notice, he gets yellow cards often because of fouls and that's due to him tracking back when he looses the ball.. he did that sometimes but of course he has those typical Quaresma days in which he camps there after loosing the ball and can start a fire to get warmed up if needed :lol:
But now seriously IMO mentality could go up two points.

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby RB7 » 2008 Dec 30, 15:16

Two of his most beautiful goals ever IMO:

Goal vs Belgium

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Free Kick vs Braga - 1:30

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby Dino » 2008 Dec 30, 15:19

I think that Mentality 70 could be good imo.

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby RB7 » 2008 Dec 30, 15:24

Pazza Interista wrote:I think that Mentality 70 could be good imo.


And reading it again.. SJ-123 is kinda right there.. he gave a truly HUGE number of assists last season.. but I mean it's SO hard to rate.. one day he's amazing and gives assists as often as he changes shirts and the other one he dribbles back and forth and passing the ball is simply out of question..

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Re: Ricardo QUARESMA

Postby RB7 » 2008 Dec 30, 17:00

Suggestion Summary:

Three agrees on:

Technique - 93
Teamwork - 74

New suggestions:

Aggression - 83 (Two agrees - Check Figo's thread)
Mentality - 70 (One agree)
Stamina - 82 - With his speed and low mentality he will be tired much easier than in real matches.. so I think he should be upped a bit in his stamina.

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