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Zlatan Ibrahimović

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 09, 20:52

We started to discuss about increase his jump :) . I suggested it, and S-J23 agreed.

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 11, 09:25

well.. I still think his TS should be raised by 1-2 points rather than increasing his DS.. also, of course, agreed on the jump and it's been discussed a while ago.. but I think it was really neglected because Zlatan is hell of an agile player.. and his acrobatic skills are really amazing..

I think it's quite unfair that Arsenal's duo (Bendtner/Adebayor) is rated at 87/86 and Zlatan is at 80.. I think 83/84 is a minimum.. his jump is extraordinary and if Adebayor is at 86 why should be Zlatan 6!! points behind him when their jumping skills are very comparable..

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby ravlee » 2008 Dec 11, 11:37

S-J23 wrote:well.. I still think his TS should be raised by 1-2 points rather than increasing his DS.. also, of course, agreed on the jump and it's been discussed a while ago.. but I think it was really neglected because Zlatan is hell of an agile player.. and his acrobatic skills are really amazing..

I think it's quite unfair that Arsenal's duo (Bendtner/Adebayor) is rated at 87/86 and Zlatan is at 80.. I think 83/84 is a minimum.. his jump is extraordinary and if Adebayor is at 86 why should be Zlatan 6!! points behind him when their jumping skills are very comparable..


agree with everything said .. TS +1/2 - Jump imo 84/85

and maybe his agility could go up as well.. i know that 87 is already pretty high for a guy his height, but ibra is amazing when it comes to agility.. i'm thinkin of a 89.. but it might overrate him, what do other ppl think about that?

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 11, 11:50

GIOVINCO is at 89... which i feel is quite more agile than him :)

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 11, 12:01

DeFrenZ wrote:GIOVINCO is at 89... which i feel is quite more agile than him :)


but can we really compare a man that is 192 cm tall and a man that is 164 cm tall? that's basically 30 cm difference..
besides, Zlatan is superbly agile.. agility is not only Messi-type fluid movement.. I dare to say Zlatan is the most agile tall (190+) player..
for example.. C. Ronaldo is at 93 agility.. and is he really that much agile than Zlatan? I am not saying Ronaldo's rated incorrectly.. but we could really discuss Zlatan's agility..

also.. don't only look at the height.. but consider weight and body type of a certain player.. Giovinco is the Messi-type player.. small.. light.. no real body mass.. while Zlatan is really buffed with a lot of muscles and body mass.. so don't think so straightforward.. it won't bring any good..

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby ravlee » 2008 Dec 11, 12:40

DeFrenZ wrote:GIOVINCO is at 89... which i feel is quite more agile than him :)


yes but i think that in-game a guy who is 164 w. 89 agility is much more agile than a guy who is 192 with 89 agility.. i think it's the same thingy as with body balance.. a guy with 164 and 89 BB (unlikely i know) will stand no chance against a guy who is 192 and 89 BB.. agility thing is just vice versa I think

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 11, 12:51

if there is anyway to surely confirm this, then i would agree ;)

even though, still talking about GIOVINCO (well, he is the smallest player out there XD) he is white in BB even though he is small, so i think that yes you should consider height but ladders too...

and yes, i think CR7 is much more agile than him...

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Dino » 2008 Dec 11, 13:26

Agree with S-J32, I've been suggesting a raise in his TS/Acc for ages!

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby ravlee » 2008 Dec 12, 19:13

flavio_sk wrote:He need a decrease in DA. Ibra have better tecnique than DA.

Maybe 92 is a good number for he.


? he has 96 for technique and 95 for DA... i dunno if u had maths in school but 96 is more than 95 so he already is better @ TEC in comparison to DA ..

and ... ibra is worth 95 for DA

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby WayneThePayne » 2008 Dec 15, 12:55

I think he deserves an uppdate in SP. He has showed on various occations this season that he is pretty much the hardest shooting player in the world today and 89 don't justify that.

Shot Power :92~94?

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 15, 14:20

scored two great goals yesterday (you can see highlights here) and maybe he's deserving an orange value in Shot Power (remember the 2 goals against Palermo)..

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby nico90 » 2008 Dec 15, 17:18

agree with 92 shot power

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 15, 17:32

i'd say SP 90-91...

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 15, 17:34

then maybe 91 is the correct value...but i'll have no problem with 92 (just see Palermo match)

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby Dino » 2008 Dec 15, 20:54

Agree with 91/92

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 16, 07:52

Okay, there has been some discussion about TS & DS values being moved up and down. Can we discuss values, otherwise I'm afraid the suggestions will be overlooked.

What's not being overlooked is the discussion of Shot Power.
Wayne 92-94
Ace: 91-92
Nico: 92
Defrenz: 90-91
Pazza: 91-92

I think this mean we are good for an update. I think the best question is, is his SP better than Nedved's(who is at 91)?

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 16, 09:22

I think that right now IBRA's SP > NEDVED's... but more because the latter may need some decrease...

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby S-J23 » 2008 Dec 16, 09:49

well.. if Zlatan gets 91 then I suppose C. Ronaldo could have 91 as well :geek: and I doubt Nedvěd needs any lowering.. I am strongly against something like Zlatan > C. Ronaldo - Nedvěd

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Re: Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 16, 11:22

If Ibra is a 91-92...then what is Kolarov?? A 94? Kolarov is currently standing at a 90, and I think his shot is in the same class as Riise. At least he kicks it hard more often then Riise :P

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