Rfuna wrote:IMO we leave him for now because he's too difficult to rate. What's happened to him over the years in inexplicable. It's like with Milito. Worse yet he's hardly ever played last 2 years so how can we rate him fairly. We could maybe just reduce consistency maybe until he plays more regularly. If anything its just that he's confidence has been shot to shit over the years. and then various injury problems.
No, I strongly disagree here. In this website everyone is fast to increase stats (including myself) and slow to decrease (note: it's not a criticism to you, Ron, but to everyone), fast to increase stats for players that played good for some months and slow to decrease players that aren't playing good for months (again, I include myself in this criticism); the law must be equal for everyone, because play in the game with this Santon is just unrealistic. Because the actual (and with "actual" I mean more than 15 months) Santon is an useless and brainless player (and you can read in this topic that I was and I am a supported of him, so personally I have nothing against him). As I said I have nothing against him, but see or play with an overrated Santon, or an overrated Jankulovski, or an overrated Amantino Mancini capable of dribble every defender, or an overrated Adriano capable of run and do something useful, or an overrated Buffon or Doni capable of catch all balls is very frustating and not correct. In Santon's case, the excuse "he didn't played, it's impossible to rate" (that can be rightly used with Bizzarri or Suazo for example) is not applicable, he showed too many times to have problems (physical, but mainly mental IMO) and since in PES it's (I believe) impossible to have a combination of 15 months of purple down arrow, the only solution is to decrease his values.
Apart the vent, this set exist in Classic section so if someone prefer to play with a 2009's Santos is free to use his classic stats, but 2010's and 2011's Santos is another player and it's correct to give him an update. It's hard to find a good game by him in last two years and I can't imagine this set plus a orange or red arrow how can become unrealistic. He has the potential to become this good, but the reality is that to replicate him in PES we are forced to decrease, I'm sorry. Like I wrote, my first ideas are about DEF and RESP.