Eden Hazard

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Eden Hazard

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jan 13, 17:12

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby nonobus » 2009 Jan 13, 17:25

here we go:P
some suggestions :

Dribble Speed: 81 :arrow: i think he dribbles faster, he doesn't lose so much speed. maybe 83

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby spinaL » 2009 Jan 14, 18:22

Finally someone made this player :mrgreen:
Good dribbling and technique often too selfish but he's young.

Eden Hazard's 1st goal @ Lille
Eden Hazard's 2nd goal against Saint-Ettiene
Hazard against Montpellier


His SPA are good, but often his passes are to weak so maybe a decrease in SPS. And maybe 2 point raise in BB, also his main position should be SM* he always plays on the side at Lille.

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby nonobus » 2009 May 02, 16:07

I think he's faster than that:his speed + his burning accelerattion make him unstoppable. i'd suggest Top Speed: 84
Acceleration:88

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2009 May 06, 18:05

DS on 82 83

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby Re-arranged » 2009 May 27, 07:52

I don't think Hazard really deserves 77 in attack, he's not anything spectacular in positioning or avoiding marking. His main strengths are dribbling, agility and speed. I also don't think he deserves teamwork in yellow region yet. As for speed/acceleration I'd raise it to 83-84/86.

EDIT: oh and also forgot to mention his dribbling speed which I'd also raise a couple of points.

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby Jim_Boi » 2009 May 28, 11:38

Re-arranged for mod!!! :D

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby gib2504 » 2009 Jun 23, 19:20

balance i'd go to 73, bit stronger than 71 i think.
Drib acc i'd go down to 82.
Passing i'd drop a little SP 75, 76 LP 74, 77
ST i'd up to 76

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby spinaL » 2009 Jun 23, 20:41

gib2504 wrote:balance i'd go to 73, bit stronger than 71 i think.
Drib acc i'd go down to 82.
Passing i'd drop a little SP 75, 76 LP 74, 77
ST i'd up to 76
Disagree al except BB and ST

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby Ajacied_Breda1 » 2009 Sep 11, 15:08

Perhaps his ACC could be raised. Comparing him to other, rather similar players I feel his burst of sudden speed is higher than enpictured in my earlier stats. I'd go for an 85, keeping his TS at the 82. This way he'll be rather quick off the mark but not superfast over a longer distance.

I also disagree with the above suggestions bar the BB one. He simply doesn't deserve a 76 for ST yet, he's not that great shootingwise and mainly is a man of the assist.

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby nonobus » 2009 Sep 11, 15:22

Ajacied_Breda1 wrote:Perhaps his ACC could be raised. Comparing him to other, rather similar players I feel his burst of sudden speed is higher than enpictured in my earlier stats. I'd go for an 85, keeping his TS at the 82. This way he'll be rather quick off the mark but not superfast over a longer distance.

I also disagree with the above suggestions bar the BB one. He simply doesn't deserve a 76 for ST yet, he's not that great shootingwise and mainly is a man of the assist.


I think he already deserves a good value for ST, he has scored some goals from tight angle like that: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/doguescrowman11/video/xabtqc_eden-hazard-saison-0910_sport . Actually he's not so "man of the assist" at Lille. He's really attacked minded, sometimes even playing CF, his burst, his dribbling and his agility( and also his relative good understanding with his teammates although the value in first post is a bit high) are his assets.

I think his ACC, DS,ST and AGG has to be raised(+ *dribbling) while his TW has to be decreased.

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby Paddy » 2009 Sep 11, 15:47

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby spinaL » 2009 Sep 11, 20:26

Good set, but instead of posting a new set you could have posted some suggestions cause their almost the same but i agree if ACC,DS could go down a bit and ATT on the current value of 77

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby spinaL » 2009 Sep 11, 20:42

Paddy wrote:Almost the same :shock: Get some glasses boy.

The only big changes are ACC and DS the others are dropped or raised by 2~3 so you could have posted a suggestions summary or would you say that im wrong !? Paddy your a funny guy you know :lol:

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby Paddy » 2009 Sep 11, 20:48

Dude stop being an ignorant twat.

There's been discussion all in this thread about how he doesn't warrant a 77 for attack and how a 71 is totally harsh for his balance. Are you saying ratehr than the stats being tweaked by one or 2 or even 3 :shock: :o that would mean I didn't study the player at all? Dude its called progression and growth. These stats were close to accurate at one point, but aren't anymore. If you just want to be a tit then only change ACC and DS and leave the rest as your saying they're accurate!

Screw it, I'd be childish, others can discuss the stats ;) mine were close to the originals anyway...

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby spinaL » 2009 Sep 11, 21:14

Paddy wrote:Dude stop being an ignorant twat.

There's been discussion all in this thread about how he doesn't warrant a 77 for attack and how a 71 is totally harsh for his balance. Are you saying ratehr than the stats being tweaked by one or 2 or even 3 :shock: :o that would mean I didn't study the player at all? Dude its called progression and growth. These stats were close to accurate at one point, but aren't anymore. If you just want to be a tit then only change ACC and DS and leave the rest as your saying they're accurate!

Screw it, I'd be childish, others can discuss the stats ;) mine were close to the originals anyway...

Listen up Pad.. I have nothing against you i really like the set that's what i said or are you the one who needs some glasses? What i was trying to say is, the only things that needed to change in your set were ACC and DS the others were accurate and to keep this thread clean you could have posted some sort of a suggestions summary, YA DIGG !? 8-)
But whe are screwing it up right now, so let's act like some adults ;)

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby Helios » 2009 Sep 12, 20:14

Relax guys.

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby bjk_melo_151 » 2009 Sep 29, 11:48

His agility must be 90's.
He is a little Messi.

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby nonobus » 2009 Oct 11, 19:17

There was a discussion about updating his stats. Some values imo need imortant tweaks.

Attack: 77/Response: 76/Aggression: 82
He has scored a good amount of goals last year for such a young player. He can also play CF at Lille. But it's mostly due to his quite sharp response(though he is very young), his offensive-minded spirit and his striking of ball. His positionning is now not enough developped. He is not better than the likes of Gervinho, Maiga, Sessegnon who all sit at 76. I'd put him at ATT:75/RES: 78/AGG:84

Balance: 71
In most clashes with other players he goes down, sure he is not a strong player. But actually his "shielding" of the ball is actually rather good for a player of his size. When he is standing he can keep the ball well, despite the pressure. He isn't also the weakest player in ligue1, at least not weaker than a player like Valbuena who sits on BB72. I'd put him at BB:73.

Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 83
He is hughly underated here. It makes him on the same level as some of the slowest SB of ligue1...He is definitely faster, his burst of speed is actually fantastic. Even if he is not superfast over distances, he can keep his speed during considerable times. Very similar to a player like Giovinco. I'd put him at TS:83/ACC:87.

Agility: 86
Dribble Accuracy: 84
Dribble Speed: 81
Not much to say, he is particulary nimble and fluid in his movements, dribbling with an impressive ease and confidence. Yet i think 1 point less in DA would be better(as Paddy had suggested), he has great talent but with his Agility and DS, it may make him too effective. That's why i'd put him at AGI:88(same as Sessegnon and Ben Arfa) - DA:83 - DS:86 + *Dribbling

Shot Technique: 73
Like i've said his striking of the ball can be sometimes beautiful giving some classy goals:http://www.dailymotion.com/user/doguescrowman11/video/xabtqc_eden-hazard-saison-0910_sport He also loves to put a lot of curl in his shoot, not surprising he has been scoring some goals "à la Thierry Henry." Well i think we can put him with ease at ST:76. It doesn't' represent well yet his striking talent but well he lacks experience and consistency for the moment. Speaking of consistency...giving to such a young player Cons6 may be a bit hurried. He is far from playing several times that good. He can have Cons 5.

Team Work: 81
Hmm...he can be involved in his team good movements, his passes accuracy is more than decent. But he isn't player with a genius vision. In fact he is playing more SMF than AMF at Lille. Moreover his understanding with his teammates is not as good as Bastos(who may need a raise), or Ederson. He is very young and has to learn yet to mke his choices faster and not overdo with his Dribbles. I'd put him at TW:77(1 point under Sessegnon).

To summary:
Attack: 75
Balance: 73
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 87
Agility: 88
Dribble Accuracy: 83
Dribble Speed: 86
Shot Technique: 76
Aggression: 84
Team Work: 77
*Dribbling
Cons 5

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Re: Eden HAZARD

Postby spinaL » 2009 Oct 19, 18:18

Thanks for this, nothing more to say than Agrreeeee :D

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