Juan Manuel Vargas

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Juan Manuel Vargas

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 12:53



Jose Manuel Vargas, dubbed the new Roberto Carlos. He has striking shot power and, more importantly, knows how to convert it on goal as good ol' Roberto. Also posses a good free kick and is speedy. Puts a good cross in the box too, overall a mini-Carlos. ;)

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2010 Mar 14, 12:57

PMC wrote:yeah I'm also quite sure that he's easily as strong as Yssuf Koné (as if anybody knew who I am refering to :mrgreen:)


I know who he is! CF of Cluj!



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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby jmg721 » 2010 Mar 20, 22:40

Probably already been discussed, but I'm a little surprised to see he is only an 81 in Mentality.

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby fitorro » 2010 May 25, 00:16

jmg721 wrote:Probably already been discussed, but I'm a little surprised to see he is only an 81 in Mentality.


Me too. I suggest 84-85

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby Martins » 2010 Jun 02, 23:32

Attack 77? 82 at least.

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 Jun 03, 03:25

Attack can be raised one or two points IMO.

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby pagno91 » 2010 Oct 12, 14:32

you can add p09, early croos

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby zuo » 2010 Oct 12, 15:01

i think we could use a little update with j.m. alongside adding his cards.
if we assume that his speed stats were rated properly last year, i don't know if we could use an update,cause this year he is something slower,
everyone who watchs fiorentina regularly had noticed this. obviously is a problem of form,as example Diego Milito,so should we keep the same ratings?
About his Mentality,probably it's his most inconsistent trait as a footballer. with an 81 he's currently on par with a good worker(and more track-backer) rodrigo Taddei and 1 pt lower than Simone Pepe.(who is going to be higher). Mannini and Abate are on 83,so Vargas could be an 82 probably.
About his Attack,IMO if we look at the SMF's ladder we see a major problem. it is really bad sorted. as example Marchionni is at 75 under Beckham at 76. then we find Mesto at 77 under Luciano at 78. in my opinion we should rate them as Beckham<=Luciano<=Mesto/Marchionni.
About Cards, Surely []Long Throw,[]Long Ranger and []Early Cross are fine for Vargas;
Then,if we see at his *Dribbling,i don't think we could assign to him any Dribbling card. he just runs effectively with the ball and can get past a man if needed.
Incisive run is clearly not a tendency of him,he shoots or crosses from outside the box the majority of times. Not Trickster too.
Don't know about Mazing Run or Speed Merchant.
IMO we could also assign []Cut Back Pass....as a 'replacement': Vargas major 'tendency' is going as deep as the goal line,
and then put into the box a curling cross that cuts back up to the penalty disk...

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby zuo » 2010 Nov 28, 11:09

nice match vs Juve. his style of play seems always the same, i could say that at my eyes he appears a little bit slower than a year ago. would add as a note that despite being easily stronger than Motta on the ground, he wasn't able to beat him in the air on a single occasion.
he is curently 1 cm shorter,9 kgs heavier +6 BB on Motta. than Motta is rated at an 81 Jump and he's on a 73.
would suggest a point increase in Mott'as BB when juve topics open again. motta's 186x76 BB 79 (too close to krasic,he's stronger than him) and a pt lower than de ceglie.

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby Alex_10 » 2010 Nov 28, 20:17

ACC and TS could get one point increase without a problem

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby zuo » 2011 Feb 11, 18:49

so he has *Dribbling to make him carry the ball, TW isn't actually high so he wouldnt give away the ball fast.....
then i added both []Early Cross and []Cut Back pass, tendencies that actually the guy has got...and hoping that both card compensate eachother,alongside a 'reduction' by *dribbling and not-high TW.

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby zuo » 2011 Apr 15, 03:02

made a bunch of updates. da 81 after comparisons with most of the sidebacks and the smfs(and also for the ball retention style on the side...
...you can't take the ball from him....he's crossing every time. ) lowered curl by 2 pts at 81.
would add just 1-touch pass star for volleys.....but i had to add both in default and editor shows just the card.....
lowered condition at 6 due to various lacks of forms and the 2011 arrows thing....updated wfa @4.....
updated tw @79 and lpa.....his left foot crossing is better then pasqual nowadays and one of the best in the league still IMO.

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby demoneye » 2011 Apr 16, 10:31

good stats. Maybe long pass speed could be higher. 88 I suggest ;)

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2011 Apr 24, 15:02

What about a raise in Mentality?

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby zuo » 2011 May 02, 00:24

this guy has always to do with patches of form...psichological issues....when he's unhappy or so.....but on his form....take a look:



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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2011 May 02, 01:37

Amazing goal!

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby Fiddy » 2011 May 02, 20:19

Yeah amazing goal, and its not his 1st one this way, i really think that his ST can be higher. any thoughts?

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2011 May 03, 03:01

Fiddy wrote:Yeah amazing goal, and its not his 1st one this way, i really think that his ST can be higher. any thoughts?


Could be. The thing is he was injuried all the time!. Anyway, remember all his nice goals, could have 78 or 79 in ST.

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby alvaruh96 » 2011 Jun 13, 02:51

i suggest shot acc above 77 because with 74 i cant score from long range or the shots goes to the middle

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby alvaruh96 » 2011 Jun 13, 03:55

stamina and mentality should be raised because in 2008 in the match with argentina he played all the match and at 93´ he starts his run and leaves behind bataglia with temper and power

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Re: Juan Manuel VARGAS

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2011 Jul 16, 22:15

Thus guy need a raise in Mentality. Today, he run over 120 minutes, he was tired and all that shit, and he keep running to attack and defend. He said he keep running all the time because he loves his country and he will never give up for our NT. Plus, he always played good under presure, plays good the hardest and important games.

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