Stephen McManus

[Paddy]

[Paddy]

he's a bit more defensively solid Defensively his rating could go up. aswell as response.

[Vandeach]

His long passing is actually quite good(well good-ish) he likes to hoof it upfield a lot to the midfielders/strikers(or is this shot power) I'd say LPA: 74/75 and LPS: 83/84

[Paddy]

LPS: 83/84 really?

thats better than pretty much every Defender.

A CB hoofs it with Shot power, maybe Shot Power: 80 => 84

[PMC]

LPS in the 80s is hard to argue with because that could mean that lots of defenders need new stats in that aspect

[Paddy]

CREDIT TO GIB2504

only change is Condition: 7

[clinon]

Do you have newer Barry Robston Stats, too?

[Paddy]

these aren't mine they're from here

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=33553

[clinon]

Do you think the celtic stats from gib2504 are accurate?

Because i will update my Players in Pes.

[Paddy]

Yeah he's pretty well known around the PES editing scene. I trust his stats anyway

[jmg721]

i love defenders like this guy, no nonsense, not flashy, gets stuck in and wins the ball and loves the club.

My uncle knows Stevie personally as his girlfriend lives next door, and he has never had a bad thing to say about him.

Admits when he plays a bad game, and shows his love for the club, In my eyes he bleeds green blood.

Since the last update he has become an important part to the National Team aswell.

I'm not planning on writing massive stories about the players I post, just a little bit before the stats.

I as always will talk and like constructive critisism on the players I've posted, anything I've missed, I'd like to know about.

[Paddy]

I've tweaked gibs stats and made them my own

Updated.

[Paddy]

Updated.

[Cold_Mac]

Was injured for the start of the season, but returns to action for scotland and celtic in a very strong way.
His skills are very limited, but he is a solid strong built, no-nonsense CB.
Maybe raise his balance back to 87 and heading/jump to 86/84.
At the moment it seems that Mogga and Burley both rate him higher than Gary Caldwell.

[Paddy]

I'll wait a bit before I update him again...

[Cold_Mac]

You're right, he's pretty poor at the moment

[Hayabusa85]

Personally i think Stephen McManus (and Gary Caldwell) tend to get awful lot of unjust criticism imo, individually they're both good defenders and like most decent defensive partnerships they should address each others weaknesses, as Nrby quite rightly points out when comparing Terry/Carvalho/Ferdinand/Vidic etc in John Terry's thread. But at the moment they just don't seem to be really communicating or have much confidence in one each other when they're backs are against the wall, especially positionally.

What changes do you have in mind? I'm not sure what changes need to be made to be honest with you, as i think the stats as they stand represent him quite well. I don't think he's quite 100% yet since returning from injury, so i'm hopeful ( ) he'll continue to improve as the season progresses.

[Cold_Mac]

Mick is one of my favourite players at Celtic.
But at the moment the defence doesn't work really well but it will get better sooner or later
and isn't he taller than just 1,88?
Caldwell is 1,85 and he always seems to be around 5cm taller

[clinon]

Does he really deserve a 7 for Consistency?

He wasn't that consistent in the last time.

[Cold_Mac]

I think this need some changes.

Defence: 82 - better defender than Caldwell imo, but struggles this season. Played well against Hamilton.
Balance: 87 - really strong guy, miles ahead of Caldwell who is rated at 84.
Acceleration: 73 - thats his weakness.
Short Pass Accuracy: 69 - certainly not a player you'd expect to open the game unlike Caldwell.
Long Pass Accuracy: 70 - same as above.
Header: 86 - rarely loose in the air, again miles above Caldwell.
Jump: 84 - same as above.
Technique: 68 - has got problems in this area at all.
Mentality: 88 - Fights every time he comes out, passionate celtic-supporter, loves the club and gives everything.