Horst Hrubesch | 1980-1983

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Horst Hrubesch | 1980-1983

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 13, 08:27

Nickname: "Das Kopfball-Ungeheuer" ("The Header Beast")

Club: Hamburger SV



Growth type: Late/Lasting

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Horst Hrubesch (born 17 April 1951 in Hamm) is a retired German football player employed as of 2010 as a youth trainer at the DFB. His nickname was Das Kopfball-Ungeheuer (the Header Beast) for his heading skills.

Career

Hrubesch was the typical late bloomer. He played in small clubs until the age of 24 before he was signed by Rot-Weiss Essen. There he played well enough that Hamburger SV bought him, where he blossomed into one of the most productive forwards of the Bundesliga and was soon called up for the German national team. Hrubesch was known for his symbiotic relationship with fellow HSV player Manfred Kaltz, a right wingback whose crosses Hrubesch often headed into the goal.

International career

West Germany's match-winning hero in the 1980 UEFA European Championship final against Belgium, Horst Hrubesch scored two goals in Rome, the second of them a trademark bullet header in the 89th minute. It was a day of glorious redemption for the big, bulky Hamburger SV centre-forward who a few weeks earlier had hobbled around the field with an ankle injury as his club lost the European Champion Clubs' Cup final to Nottingham Forest FC. A latecomer to the international scene, Hrubesch had only been called into the West Germany squad after Klaus Fischer broke his leg, and the game against Belgium was only his fifth international appearance. He would win just 21 caps in all, the last of them in the 1982 FIFA World Cup final. A German champion three times, he also won the European Cup with Hamburg in 1983, captaining the team to a sensational 1–0 win against favourites Juventus in the Athens final.

His greatest successes were the win of the European Championship in 1980, where he decided the finals with two of his late Ungeheuer header goals, and 1983, where he won the Champions Cup against Juventus Turin. He also was German champion in 1979, 1982 and 1983. He scored 136 goals in 224 games in the Bundesliga and was capped 21 times.

He is also famous for having scored the winning penalty which knocked France out of the 1982 FIFA World Cup semi-finals after an epic game which was tied 3–3 after extra-time. Irish television commentator Jimmy Magee during the shoot-out coined the phrase that made Hrubesch best known in the English-speaking world: "The man they call 'The Monster'".

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Hrubesch

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Hrubesch

http://www.national-football-teams.com/ ... p?id=17507

http://www.fussballdaten.de/spieler/hrubeschhorst/

http://www.moellers-hsv-eck.de/HSV%20Au ... 979-80.htm

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/football ... roID=47386

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/stati ... index.html

http://srb.worldfootball.net/spieler_pr ... /#redirect

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Re: Horst HRUBESCH | 1981-1982

Postby brondbylove » 2008 Dec 13, 14:08

The ultimate German footballing fantasy of rock-hard work and consistency along with a tank-like approach in the box, moulded into one player.

A man not to be fucked with.
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Re: Horst HRUBESCH | 1981-1982

Postby Oriello » 2008 Dec 13, 14:36

brondbylove wrote:The ultimate German footballing fantasy of rock-hard work and consistency along with a tank-like approach in the box, moulded into one player.

A man not to be fucked with.

Well if he was regarded as consistent then perhaps Vandenache has undervalued his Consistency? As 6 is actually an average rating in this department. Image

And I will not be f*****g him, as he is not my type. Image Too much man for my taste.Image
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Re: Horst HRUBESCH | 1981-1982

Postby brondbylove » 2008 Dec 13, 18:15

Oriello wrote:
brondbylove wrote:The ultimate German footballing fantasy of rock-hard work and consistency along with a tank-like approach in the box, moulded into one player.

A man not to be fucked with.

Well if he was regarded as consistent then perhaps Vandenache has undervalued his Consistency? As 6 is actually an average rating in this department. Image

And I will not be f*****g him, as he is not my type. Image Too much man for my taste.Image

You know what I mean :D
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Re: Horst HRUBESCH | 1981-1982

Postby Vandeach » 2008 Dec 13, 18:18

Isn't 5 average? Anyways I've raised it to 7 ;) .
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Re: Horst HRUBESCH | 1981-1982

Postby jorgebolano » 2009 Jan 25, 18:41

Why the rather low Mentality?

Heading could be even 99 as he's generally accepted to be the best header in Bundesliga and at least newer (1970s-present) German NT history and rightly so.
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Re: Horst HRUBESCH | 1981-1982

Postby Fevernova » 2010 Jun 23, 16:53

Needs to be standarized...

For Cards, I'd go with:

P19 – Chasing back
P21 – Fox in the Box
S01 – Reaction (Optional)

PS> *Reaction should also be considered...
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Re: Horst HRUBESCH | 1979-1982

Postby Plava Čigra » 2010 Jun 24, 02:54

Updated to fit new format. Changes...

1. Expanded his Era from 1981-1982 to 1979-1982. Added new picture.

2. Added *Scoring. Added new Cards: P19: Chasing Back + Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced.

3. Added Growth type: Late/Lasting. Added Info, Videos and Additional Links.

*Reaction/S01: Reaction can be discussed (since I see you're not completely sure, I didn't put it even as an optional)... I don't know this player so well that I can claim he needs this card. If anybody confirms your suggestion, I'll be glad to add it.

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Regarding Cards, I completely disagree to giving P21: Fox in the Box to players who have *Positioning. I know that description and animation don't match, but I prefer to trust animation:

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Player on the animation is clearly outside the box, keeping the ball against 2 defenders and passing it when he got an opportunity (and they named this card Fox in the Box, why :?: :roll: ). I can admit there are some elements of *Positioning, but without *Post Player, I wouldn't recommend giving this card. Just my opinion, based not only on animation, but also on some testing I've done until now ;) .

Btw., I saw that there are players with *Positioning and *Scoring who have P15: Goal Poacher. Again, why :roll: ? I can claim (based on some testings) P15: Goal Poacher is very similar to *Lines. A few times I got an impression that there are maybe some elements of *Scoring, but if a player doesn't have *Lines, he shouldn't have it. Simple as that. Imo, it's a mistake when player has for example just *Scoring compensating that with P15: Goal Poacher, in order to assign 1 card for one special ability.
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Re: Horst Hrubesch | 1980-1983

Postby Albo7 » 2017 Jul 19, 22:45

Given this mighty beast an update!

The set we had in here was surprisingly good, I think it was from Vandeach? It was as good as an old 2010 set can be. The yellow value it had in att was probably from the nonsense way we used to rate att. Horst Hrubesch was an elite striker through and through, he could hold the weight and responsibility of the entire offensive department of the team, he wouldn't just be dangerous by finding space to score with his blazing headers, imposing physique, or great shot, he would be dangerous also by playing that classic post player role he always played, creating very dangerous situations by holding off the opposition defenders, in order to give a nice well timed short pass to someone like Milewski/Bastrup, etc, in order to make them exploit their speed and be 1 on 1 against keepers. Honestly, anything short of an orange att for him is nonsense. Def was underrated as well. He'd do so much defensive work for the team.

He'd look so clumsy and awkward when on the ball, really his bulky physique didn't help him at all with being explosive, but he had a nice touch for the ball none-the-less, some of his goals came from him killing off with a good touch many of the crosses of Kaltz and co. I lowered Acc, Agi and DS to the levels he really deserved, while trying to give him a slight boost in his technical abilities. He was way too well-rounded in the former set

Talking about crosses, this Hamburg team lived by them. I see many argue that Hrubesch isn't that good because he never had outstanding performances with the NT, and that's true. But that didn't happen because of Kaltz' fault. Kaltz was a specific player which needed a very specific type of play. Germany of the early 80s was very different from Hamburg, sure every german team is known for playing with long balls, and he did have Kaltz and (a little less frequently) Magath in that team, but Hamburg breathed with those long balls. It was their bread and butter. They had a huge amount of players that could give out dangerous crosses/long balls that would find Hrubesch in dangerous spaces. Hieronymus/Memering/Wehmeyer/Hartwig/Rolff/Milewski,(Keegan and Nogly even, earlier on) just to name a few. That gave Hrubesch a great focal role for that team. While with Germany it was really difficult to become a focal point of the teams offense with team mates like Rummenigge and Klaus Fischer.

Shotting wise he was very decent, but nothing compared to what he would offer aerially. Tried to lowe ST as much as I could in order to make him do nothing too much spectacular with his shotting.

Ment and TW I gave him are well deserved, a real leader figure of one of the best teams of Europe during those years, and very very supportive for a predator CF.

And I'm pretty sure I'm under-rating LPA a little bit. As for Spa and Sps, his former rating was nonsense, as I already explained he'd do such a good job holding defenders and giving a nice, well paced, dangerous short pass to the speedsters of the team, giving them real dangerous chances. The way I rated him now is only logical.

Agg definitely lower than what he had, no way he was tha aggressive of an attacker.

Well, that's about it for him.
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Re: Horst Hrubesch | 1980-1983

Postby kuer86 » 2017 Jul 20, 13:51

my father always joked that hrubesch practiced heading on a Brückenpfeiler (Bridge pillar) or that if anybody would throw a box beer into the box, hrubesch would head it out :D so famous was his heading Ability

Anyways, thanks for updating this great player
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Re: Horst Hrubesch | 1980-1983

Postby Albo7 » 2017 Jul 22, 12:37

Lol, very funny but accurate way to describe his Terminator-like head! :lol:
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