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Ronaldo Luís Nazário | 1996-1997 | 1997-1999 | 2002-2004|...

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 13, 00:34

- 1996-1997

Nickname: *The Phenomenon*

Club: FC Barcelona



Growth type: Early/Lasting


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1997-1999

Nickname: *The Phenomenon*

Club: F.C. Internazionale Milano






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2002-2004

Nickname: *The Phenomenon*

Club: Real Madrid



Growth type: Early/Lasting

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2004-2006

Nickname: *The Phenomenon*

Club: Real Madrid



Growth type: Early/Lasting





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- 2009-2010

Nickname: "Big Ron"

Club: Corinthians



INFO:
Ronaldos final season at the highest level. Technical skills and intelligence still untouchable, 23 goals in 35 games, over 90% of his shots on target, but his physical shape was rapidly deteriorating, as well as his physical endurance. Injuries eventually lead to his retirement.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo_Lu%C3%ADs_Naz%C3%A1rio_de_Lima

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo

http://www.ronaldo.com/en/

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Feb 10, 01:03

He wasn't as spectacular as the pre injury R9, but at Real he was so explosive in the season Scoiedad ran Real close. Even when he was smaller her could brush between two defenders. I even saw him get knocked down, keep control of the ball, get up, beat the player and score in his Barca days!! He was very strong.

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby maidire80 » 2009 Mar 15, 12:04

about inter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2NHqSXftzU

at 0:48 ronaldo shows his Acceleration...maybe that should be around 96/97...

and his Injury Tolerance is b because from 1996 to 1998 he was never injured and he play all the matches, so his condition is 7 or maybe 8

his Height is 1.83 and his number in 1997/1998 was the 10

his birthdate is 22 september 1976

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby Stefan09 » 2009 Apr 05, 14:51

I know he definately deserves 90+ acceleration for his Real days IMO, I would say an increase in dribble speed also?

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby sencesor » 2009 Apr 05, 17:09

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005
I know he definately deserves 90+ acceleration for his Real days IMO, I would say an increase in dribble speed also?


Could be, just ask Motta... ;)

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby Stefan09 » 2009 Apr 06, 16:12

I suggest ACC 91 and DS 88 for the Real Madrid R9 then seem as Platini has DS 86 and there's no way he was a faster dribbler :|

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby Brezza » 2009 Apr 06, 20:47

Ok updated Real Madrid Ronaldo. Not sure about going into the oranges for acceleration, still damn fast but im not sure he was that much quicker of the mark than the likes Clichy or Ashley Young. Id like more input from other users on this though.

Some good points regarding Dribble Speed and balance. Dropped Agility by 1 point though , I dont think that the more chunky Ronaldo was more agile that Tevez.

Oh and I deleted Goku's second post, if I see another abusive fanboy post like that again this topic is being locked.

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby sencesor » 2009 Apr 06, 21:28

'REAL' Ronaldo looks great, possibly lower shoot power by one though, to 86..?

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby Stefan09 » 2009 Apr 06, 21:30

sencesor wrote:'REAL' Ronaldo looks great, possibly lower shoot power by one though, to 86..?


Yeah totally agree looks and plays much better :D

PS Pretty sure he didn't way 88kg, I'm pretty much positive it was 83kg :roll:

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby Uzair » 2009 May 01, 22:29

current ronaldo has 8/8 in weak foot stats and 95 in technique.

what i wanna say is that the current ronaldo is no better in terms of two-footedness and technique than when he was at madrid. so maybe his weak foot accuracy should go up to 8 and technique to 95

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby Brezza » 2009 May 18, 23:59

Ok updated the technique of real Ronaldo Im not sure about giving him 8, 8 for weak foot stats id probably give him 8 for frequency but wouldnt say that he was as two footed as Nedved, Charlton, Maldini and Sniejder who are all completely ambidextrous.

Couple of updates, changed my mind about real Ronaldo's acceleration, boy he could still go 8-) he was faster than Anelka today Imo.
The night when he ripped apart united's defence in the champions league was out of this world . I think there should be a a bigger gap though between acceleration and top speed in his later days so ive gone for acc 90and speed 86. Ive also raised Inter Ronaldo's speed, was too much of a hasty reduction from his barca speed levels.

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby as_10 » 2009 May 19, 11:27

Madrid's Ronaldo should hace injury C for sure :shock:

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1997-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby p1rha » 2009 Jun 03, 02:11

@ brezza, are you shure he was only 75 kg when at inter?

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1996-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby Uzair » 2009 Sep 27, 10:52

i think madrid ronaldo should have 95 for DA. i don't think he ever lost that 'godly' (as you guys call it) ability to dribble and keep the ball under complete control at his feet.

just check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQcIdEwSLmg

also why does madrid ronaldo have the lowest response out of them all. taking in mind that response affects a players ability to read the game and latch onto to loose balls for the better, shouldn't it be highest out of all 3??? it's said in the first post that his poaching was at it's best in this era and i've also noticed that, despite being slower, he was always onto any loose balls and in the right place at the right time. i am aware that he has 97 in attack and that will help in positioning but a higher response will surely make him a more effective poacher - which he was in this era.....am i right???

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1996-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby Brezza » 2009 Sep 29, 17:22

Uzair wrote:i think madrid ronaldo should have 95 for DA. i don't think he ever lost that 'godly' (as you guys call it) ability to dribble and keep the ball under complete control at his feet.

just check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQcIdEwSLmg


Possibly i'm not sure that he was the same level that he was at Barca dribbling wise and dribb acc 93 and tech 95 are still immense values. I'll see what others think :D

Uzair wrote:also why does madrid ronaldo have the lowest response out of them all. taking in mind that response affects a players ability to read the game and latch onto to loose balls for the better, shouldn't it be highest out of all 3??? it's said in the first post that his poaching was at it's best in this era and i've also noticed that, despite being slower, he was always onto any loose balls and in the right place at the right time. i am aware that he has 97 in attack and that will help in positioning but a higher response will surely make him a more effective poacher - which he was in this era.....am i right???


I don't think he was sharper to respond than at Inter or Barca. although his reactions were world class I don't think they were quite at a godly high standerd like other poachers, I wouldn't quite put it David Villa for exaple. I feel that at Madrid it was all about immense Attack value: positioning, attention to loose his markers as well as the *positioning star.

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1996-1999 & 2002-2005

Postby grahf » 2009 Oct 03, 07:01

Good point about his DA. I think in his inter days he was at his best. Maybe it was a combination of his agility, but his dribbling from that era was on another level. I don't think he ever lost that masterfull control though, all the way through madrid his DA was flawless. He wasn't anywhere near as quick on his feet as his inter days, so he didn't jink around so much and as fast as he used to or try as many step overs. So in that respect his DA should be slightly lower. But I would say he still warrants 95 DA. His control was simply perfect, over the level of anyone current { except messi}imo. And he wasn't wastefull either, his tricks always had results, so many times you'd see him just do a single flury of step overs, leave his defenders for dead and the ball would be in the back of the net.

Another thing, his agi from his madrid days is defintly not 85. It's more like 87/88. Maybe his very last season it could drop to 85.

Your right about the response too. Madrid days should be his highest response... 91 seems about right.

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1996-1997; 1997-2000; 2002-2004

Postby Xavi » 2009 Oct 07, 12:01

omg raise SA and attack

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1996-1997; 1997-2000; 2002-2004

Postby Uzair » 2009 Oct 07, 12:44

Xavi wrote:omg raise SA and attack


you have got to realise that SA is not the 'be-all and end-all'.

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1996-1997; 1997-2000; 2002-2004

Postby sencesor » 2009 Oct 07, 15:00

Uzair wrote:
Xavi wrote:omg raise SA and attack


you have got to realise that SA is not the 'be-all and end-all'.


Btw, which Ronaldo R U talking about? cous REAL Ronaldo's gots SA 97 & ATT 97...

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Re: RONALDO Luiz Nazario | 1996-1997; 1997-2000; 2002-2004

Postby Xavi » 2009 Oct 07, 19:04

it says up there he has ATT 89 and SA 91

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