Ruud van Nistelrooy | 2001-2003 | 2006-2008

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Ruud van Nistelrooy | 2001-2003 | 2006-2008

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 12, 18:25

Club: Manchester United



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During his first season, Van Nistelrooy scored 23 goals in 32 league games, ending the year on a league-record eight-game consecutive scoring streak. He also scored ten Champions League goals, and ended his debut season by being named the PFA Players' Player of the Year, scoring 36 goals in the process. Van Nistelrooy held the record for most goals in a debut season in the English Premier League (23) until Fernando Torres of Liverpool broke his record by scoring his 24th on the last day of the 2007/8 season.

In the 2002-03 season, van Nistelrooy scored 44 goals in 52 games in all competitions. He scored 12 Champions League goals in 10 games, as well as two in Champions League qualifying. He was the leading scorer in the Premier League scoring 25 goals in 34 games, including three hat-tricks, and he ended the season with another eight-game scoring streak.


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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001/2003

Postby Korinov » 2009 Feb 13, 02:10

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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001/2003

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Feb 13, 02:20

SP was already discussed in Raúl Gonzalez' thread.
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001/2003

Postby javierx7 » 2009 Aug 26, 19:53

I think:

Top Speed: 85
Acceleration: 86
Agility: 84
Dribble Speed: 86
Technique: 87
Aggression: 97

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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001/2003

Postby MarcusAurelio » 2009 Aug 26, 20:48

I don't really think so.
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby p1rha » 2009 Aug 28, 01:36

I would raise DA to 83, he wasn't a dribbler but he had a very good and tight controlof the ball, and i would drop BB to 88, he was tall but not really strong, imo he deserves the same as Shevchecko, Gerrard or Trezeguet.

and technique maybe a pt or 2 higher, rest of the stats r fine imo. ;)
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Uzair » 2009 Nov 02, 21:57

p1rha wrote:I would raise DA to 83, he wasn't a dribbler but he had a very good and tight controlof the ball, and i would drop BB to 88, he was tall but not really strong, imo he deserves the same as Shevchecko, Gerrard or Trezeguet.

and technique maybe a pt or 2 higher, rest of the stats r fine imo. ;)


agree with the DA increase. he occasionally showed quick feet when in sticky situations and generally kept the ball close to himself.

and technique could come up. he could control a pass, more or less, instantly - whether it be with his feet or chest (chest control was pretty good in all honesty)
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Sekularac » 2009 Nov 02, 22:22



Agree with DA increase, but more important is obvious(see video) need to increase DS and TS both +1 or 2. :?:
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Brezza » 2009 Nov 06, 16:40

He was no Van Basten, but yeah I'd agree that his close control was worth an 82/83 sort of value. Dribble speed is difficult to rate . Sometimes he seems quick with the ball (like goals against Fulham and Sunderland) but other times he would slow down and be conservative, just preferring to shield the ball.. So the current value is O.K I think.

Giving him higher technique than 85 would be a bit too generous when comparing him to others on the tech ladder and will have too much effect on his dribbling imo.

Balance could come down by 1, I doubt he was really stronger than today.
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Nov 06, 16:45

His team work is too high.
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Brezza » 2009 Nov 06, 17:02

That as well :P I'll lower it to 80, the same as Luca Toni.
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Nov 06, 22:05

Why the hell is Luca Toni on an 80? I'd still rate his technique as too high though, just a quick glance at the EPL ladder will show you that, he wasn't technically gifted in such a way, his touch was effective and no more than that, he often stood still when controlling the ball thus making it easier than if one was running at a high pace trying to control the ball, an 82 seems more than fair. I think passing looks a bit much too, I understand the logic in that if Van Nistelrooy was such a good finisher, he's going to be capable of laying a pass, that statement is correct, however players in PES play to their strengths, someone with a higher SPA is going to pass more than someone with a lower value and for that reason, all his passing stats should be white in my opinion, although I'd still rate his short passing higher than his long passing.
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby tomaster » 2009 Nov 08, 05:50

I have to agree his tec seems to be too high, but he's not or never was as bad in this aspect as Toni. First touch isn't Ruud main weapon.
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Jez » 2009 Nov 24, 22:58

Updated the passing but disagree with the tech suggestion
He gets horribly under-rated in the dribbling and tech department imo
I think an 82 is too low, I'd only go as low as 84 unless there were enough people to convince me otherwise :roll:
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Fevernova » 2009 Nov 24, 23:23

Not so sure about Shot Tech, really...
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Jez » 2009 Nov 24, 23:26

Fevernova wrote:Not so sure about Shot Tech, really...


No arguement that he deserves a very decent figure for it, but maybe 93 is a tad too high
I wouldn't like to lower it until the current one is lowered though
Unless of course you think he wasn't as good at it back then than he is now
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Fevernova » 2009 Nov 25, 01:01

Most of the goals he scored back then were not very attractive to the eye, I must say, but it's also true he scored from difficult angles, but 93 puts him 4 points over classic Eusebio (who sits at 89), U see? ;)
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby p1rha » 2009 Nov 25, 01:55

What u need for scoring from a tight angle is accuracy, not technique. It's obvious ain't it? If u have a less wider angle it's the same has if the target was narrower!

People often say that ST helps when shooting from tight angles but it should be put this way: ST helps a player shooting from tight angles IF he is not runing in the same direction of the goal, thus having to twist his body to shoot.

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Since my english is a bit limited when it comes to explain this kind of stuff i'll use this scetch.
In the image the red arrow represents a player runing in the direction were the shot is aimed.
On the other hand the blue arrows represent players running in a tottally diferent direction, but ending up in a position were they have exactly the same angle to shoot.

The red position is much better for shooting, and scoring from there depends primarly on how good the player's accuracy is. In the blue positionions, the player has to TURN to shoot.

Well, in PES most of the shots taken from tight angles are done in positions similar to ones in blue, and most likely that is why people say that ST improves shooting from "tight angles". But that's not completly correct.

And yes, imo RVN's ST could come down a bit has he wasn't a specialist at shooting from "awekward positions", but at placing the ball really well.
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Fevernova » 2009 Nov 25, 14:50

What value would U suggest, P1rha? I´d go with 89-90.
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Re: Ruud VAN NISTELROOY | 2001-2003

Postby Classical » 2009 Nov 25, 20:39

Sorry to pop up like this, but that nice logic of the ST vs SA could be used in Cantona's post.

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