Manfred Kaltz | 1980-1983

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Manfred Kaltz | 1980-1983

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 11, 16:54

Nickname: "Manni"

Club: Hamburger SV



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Manfred Kaltz (born 6 January 1953) is a former German football player and manager, who played as a right back.

Kaltz played in the Bundesliga for Hamburger SV and 13 times (one goal) for FC Mulhouse in Ligue 1 after initially joining Mulhouse league rivals Girondins de Bordeaux 1989. He returned to Hamburg the season after, the consequence of the relegation of FC Mulhouse from Ligue 1 at the end of 1989–90. Previously, Kaltz was forced to leave Hamburg, the club for which he had been a professional since the 1971–72 season, after the authorities (e.g. Erich Ribbeck) had decided not to go on with the contract of the long-serving full-back. Their successors lured him back from France in September 1990 to give him the chance to serve his final year as a player at his old club.

In total he played in 581 Bundesliga games for Hamburger SV (HSV), to this day remaining the second greatest total of an individual in Bundesliga history. An expert in penalties, the Hamburg fan-favourite scored 53 of his 76 goals from the spot, a record in the Bundesliga. Internationally he was part of the squad that won the 1980 UEFA European Championships.

Kaltz was famous for his right-footed crosses, which he hit with so much spin that they curved like a banana. They were affectionately called "Bananenflanken" ("banana crosses"). He often used this technique to set up hulking striker Horst Hrubesch, whose 96 goals with HSV included many from Kaltz crosses that Hrubesch headed into the opposing goal. Hrubesch once described their partnership when he explained one of his goals with the often quoted words "Manni banana, I head, goal".

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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby POSTER#1 » 2008 Dec 11, 17:05

Vandenache are you going to post the remandier of your players? I just would like to know to avoid a double posting of the same player.
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby Vandeach » 2008 Dec 11, 17:10

Yeah Okay then, great work on posting all these players ;).
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby POSTER#1 » 2008 Dec 11, 17:19

Vandeach wrote:Yeah Okay then, great work on posting all these players ;).

Sorry but I am unclear as to your response :P, "Yeah Okay"..I will continue to post my stats, or "Yeah Okay"..I leave the rest to you? Just would like a bit of clarity. ;)
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby Vandeach » 2008 Dec 11, 17:55

Sorry for being unclear I will post the rest of the stats myself and would like to thank you for the great job you've done copying all these stats ;).
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby POSTER#1 » 2008 Dec 11, 18:05

Thanks for the clarification ;).

No thanks required, I use the site like everyone else and since I do not contribute with ladders or stats, then I ought to help in some way. :)
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby brondbylove » 2008 Dec 12, 12:09

With Manfred Kaltz created, surely Horst Hrubesch must be the next player to do.
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby Vandeach » 2008 Dec 13, 08:04

I'll get to it ;).
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby brondbylove » 2008 Dec 13, 14:05

Vandeach wrote:I'll get to it ;).


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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby Vandeach » 2008 Dec 13, 18:25

Maybe I could lower aggression he di like to get some crosses in from deep and maybe 84 will make him go forward too much :| ?
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby Plava Čigra » 2009 May 08, 22:33

Good job.

Height (184 cm), weight (78 kg) and number in West Germany national team: http://www.worldfootball.net/spieler_pr ... red-kaltz/
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby Vandeach » 2009 May 08, 22:40

Thank you :). And updated ;).
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby Oriello » 2010 Feb 15, 15:19

Intrestingly in 1978 against Poland in the opening game of that World Cup he was played as a CB; in a line of Vogts Russmann Kaltz Zimmermann.

The English commentators pointed out how the Germans were despreately missing Beckenbauer's presence - as he would normally push into MF shifting the entire team formation up and into attack. The display was very laid back and defensive, "un-German...negative" the colour commentator gave, highlighting in how Russmann sometimes tried to move pass the half way line but was highly ineffective, while Kaltz attempted to rain balls around from the back but was incapable of crafting anything remotely dangerous - him getting himself in to spots of bother when he tried to dribble/ground pass the ball out of defence lead to the commentary off, 'Kaltz is a good defender as long as he does not think too much'. :lol: He did just bomb it to Tomaszewski or on rare occasion Germany sent someone up, the ball was gobbled up by Zmuda/Gorgon. I was actually more impressed with Zmuda on the ball than Kaltz - the Pole went for at least two decent dribbling runs and laid three quality passes for the forwards - astonishing and here I thought the Pole was shit as a footballer...to be fair to Kaltz on the LPasses from the back, Germany played a 4-5-1 with barely any options upfront.

As a CB he was okay, nothing outstanding - the 'casual' display prompted a shuffling for the rest of the tournament, to (RB)Vogts Russmann Dietz Kaltz -- thus he played as leftback, maybe Side to both?
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby Danilo Cruz » 2010 Jun 20, 03:52

Kaltz also is known as Bananenflanken
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Re: Manfred KALTZ | 1981-1982

Postby Sean_19 » 2010 Jun 28, 13:46

I would slightly increase his Attack and Defence, I think 75/65 would look fine... And his Stamina and LPA should be in orange for sure!

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Re: Manfred Kaltz | 1980-1983

Postby Albo7 » 2017 Jul 19, 11:33

Given this legendary player an update.

"Kaltz is supreme when attacking from deep positions." - that's what an english commentator would say during the European Cup final of 1980, and that's one of the best ways to describe this great player.

Now, Kaltz is by no way what we'd be expecting from todays standards of full backs, when thinking of modern fullback standards, we call great guys like Roberto Carlos, Cafu, or even prime Dani Alves. Guys who'd continuously would bomb down the sides and have the gas tank of a transatlantic plane, guys with great amounts of energy that can pop in and out both in the defense and in the offense thoughout all the game. But no, Kaltz was nothing like that. He had a good gas tank, but he wasted nowhere near the amount of energy modern fullbacks waste. He didn't need to. When it comes to his tactical positioning, throughout a game you'd see Kaltz sticking to defensive positions much more than the offensive ones. He'd seldomly join the attack true, but nowhere near as much as the team mates that would usually occupy the left back spot, like Memering and Wehmeyer, even Groh, who was an offensive monster. Yet he was much more dangerous than all of them. Why? Because of his so very dangrous legendary banana-crosses.

His crosses were sublime, his range of long balls is one of the best ever, I gave him an 95 but he could sit even higher. Passing range-wise, he's really one of the best ever. And the curling he gave to his crosses would make them even more dangerous. His crosses found the scoring head of Hrubesch, or even Rolff or Hartwig far too many times. But not just that, he'd also give fast dribblers like Bastrup or Von Heesen so many chances to exploit their speed, by passing to them in very favourable places. A real monster long passer.

Talking about Curling, i gave him a 3 points decrease. His banana-crosses had very good curl, true, but having him higher than people like Ronaldinho, Riquelme or Juninho was wrong. He really didn't posses the kind of curl someone like Juninho had, although he really wasn't far behind.

Btw, the Att/Def ratio I gave him was the most problematic piece of the set. Def not that much, he was involved in defensive duties much more than Wehmeyer and Memering, so I rated him higher than them. But they were more offensive minded than him. And yet I rated him again higher than them. As previously stated, Kaltz dangerousness and effectiveness when attacking from wide positions was sublime. He didn't need to join an attack in order to create offensive danger. He was just that good. I think having him as high as someone like prime Lahm would do him justice.

It's often interpreted like Kaltz was a speedster, and that is very wrong. Kaltz was a hell of an athlete for the football of the 80s, he had very good Top Speed. But he used it only when he had space (alot), and when off the ball. Really his dribbling was a punt and run type, until he was near an opponent. He'd slow down alot when then happened, to either try his famous crossing, to pass to someone else, or to try dash past them. Really, he was a sloppy dribbler at best. But a good trapper of the ball tho. Very good one, sometimes looked like flawless at that, although his clumsiness would always take away a bit from it.

Talking about support, he'd stick mainly to his side, but he was the real boss of that side. You'd see him involved with most of the attacking and defensive moves the team was involved in the right side. Not very agressive as an attacker tho, would not really play in a high offenisve line. I think 80 for TW and 74 for Agg is more than enough.

He could shot some good connected bombs to the opposition net from time to time as well, and he was a real PK specialist.

Oh, extended his era to 80-83 to include his European Cup Final season of 80, his WC Final season of 82, and his European Champion season of 83.

All in all I like this set alot. I'll start getting to the rest of the Hamburg 83 team. I'm done with all of them.
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