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Markus Steinhöfer

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 11, 15:02

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jan 07, 11:55

jorgebolano wrote:2. Markus Steinhöfer

Stamina: 79 (This is really harsh. He might not great in this department, but 82 wouldn't be too much, I think.)
Response: 80 (I don't think he's that responsive, but I agree that he's about on par with Köhler. )
Shot Acc: 71 (I have it in the high 60's. He tends to score beautiful goals, but rather due to mistakes by the goalie or his Shot Tech.)
Shot Power: 78 (Might be a bit too low. I think a value of 82 suit him well)
WFA: 5 (I think he's above average with his left foot, so this could be 6 as well.)
Consi: 6 (I would switch this with his Condi.)
Condi: 5 (I would switch this with his Consi.)


Suggestion Summary:
STA: 82
RES: 80
SA: 68
SP: 82
COND: 6
WFA: 6

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby Heui » 2009 Jan 11, 13:38

updated

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jan 12, 06:49

Oops, response was supposed to be 76-77 :oops:

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby troedelbaer » 2009 Feb 07, 10:11

has someone seen him playing? i don't think so.

his forces are standards, particularly his crosses.

i go to the matches very often and i'm a eintracht fan.

so here my proposal for changes:

Long Pass Acc.: 83
Long Pass Speed: 83

Shot Technique: 77
Free Kick Accuracy: 80
Curling: 83

Technique: 78

Mentality: 73

Injury Tolerance: A

Special Abilities:
*Middle Shooting (really?...no)

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Feb 07, 11:10

troedelbaer wrote:has someone seen him playing? i don't think so.


Well, should I take slight offense to this....or great offense :|

Any way...I am not an expert on BuLi, but Eintracht is my favorite team in the Buli, and I have watched as many games as I can. But since I was unsure I consulted one of the best BuLi stats makers in existence, and we was nice enough to give me some suggestions on how to make these stats more accurate.

I don't doubt that your knowledge of this team, and the BuLi as a whole is better than mine. But I do doubt that your knowledge of stats making is even close. ;)

I want to focus on a major difference:
Free Kick Accuracy: 80 (+8)
Curling: 83(+5)

Do you have any video of him making FKs?

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby jorgebolano » 2009 Feb 07, 12:07

troedelbaer wrote:has someone seen him playing? i don't think so.

his forces are standards, particularly his crosses.

i go to the matches very often and i'm a eintracht fan.

so here my proposal for changes:

Long Pass Acc.: 83 (+4)
Long Pass Speed: 83 (+2)

Shot Technique: 77 (+4)
Free Kick Accuracy: 80 (+8)
Curling: 83 (+5)

Technique: 78 (-2)

Mentality: 73 (+3)

Injury Tolerance: A (B)

Special Abilities:
*Middle Shooting (really?...no)


*coughs* I won't write a lot about your first sentence, but a broad statement like yours does not give me the best first impression. Especially from somebody, who's totally new to this forum, and has only very few suggestions on what to change, most of them not even very different from the current set of stats. :roll:

LP Acc: I don't think this increase is justified. Steinhöfer is a decent crosser, but not really special. When on a good day, he can excel with his crosses and crosses from standards, but only on a good day. When on an average day, he's not a very special crosser, maybe slightly above the average value for his position. On a bad day, his crosses can be really disappointing. Therefore, a value like 83 would make him too good. Steinhöfer sits on an 78 in my file and he's listed at 79 in here. Both seem fine to me. For the yellow area, he's simply not ready yet as of now.

LP Speed: I think the two-point-gap between his LP Acc and LP Speed is just fine and 81 really reflects Steinhöfer's way to play crosses really well. Therefore, I don't think we should apply any changes in this department either.

Shot Tech: I can see where you're coming from here. I think you're referring to his marvelous goal for Salzburg. But, honestly, this was more of a one-timer. Just a very lucky shot. Sure, Steinhöfer has a decent Shot Tech, but that's just what he gets with 73. A 77 would require one goal or another from volleys or difficult shooting positions or at least coming close to a goal from one of these occasions on a regular basis. On a good day, Steinhöfer would be breaking the rooftop, rising from 77 to mid-80's, and that's just what he's not. He should be in the high 70's when on his day. This means his average should be somewhere around 73 and that's where we should keep it as of now, I think.

FK Acc: Honestly, he has scored one FK so far. And this was with a lot of luck, because the goalie positioned himself badly. Sure, he can produce dangerous crosses, but his shots on goal are not so dangerous. Nevertheless, I admit that this is something we should definitely increase. 76, or rather 77, is what I could imagine here.

Curling: I think your suggestion also comes from that hilarious goal for Salzburg. So, same as with Shot Tech, this was just a very lucky shot. Yet, I think that some increase might be justified, as he definitely knows how to curl a cross. 80 or 81 is what I would give him just now.

Technique: Your suggestion seems okay to me. What do the others think?

Mentality: Good point. This can really go up, maybe by even a bit more than 3 points.

Inj Tol: A is fine, I reckon.

[X] Middle Shooting: This is a matter of standards. We had some thoughts about this matter in the old forum. I think, this is a star that really should be made optional.

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Feb 07, 12:19

Great Post JB!!

I think I agree with most of what you said. My only question was the Technique to 78. I remember him being pretty decent in that department. A 78 seems pretty average, but I could be mistaken ;)

Everything else sounds good.....oh, I know there are few A's given out on this site, I'm not sure he is one who deserves it. I think it is for guys who take a lot of knocks, but never really get "injured".

Edit: oh, about FKACC. I generally go by the rule if they have scored a goal, not on a fluke off of a FK I go with 76 min. It seems that he has scored ONE, and it is questionable due to the keepers positioning. I'd probably say he is a good 75/76 candidate in my book ;)

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby calleklein » 2009 Feb 07, 13:29

Yeah,it's true!
He scored 1 Header and 1 FK

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby scr1899 » 2009 Feb 07, 13:47

Jep, great post jb!

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby Heui » 2009 Feb 07, 17:03

updated

thanks for your input JB

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby troedelbaer » 2009 Feb 08, 09:50

" *coughs* I won't write a lot about your first sentence, but a broad statement like yours does not give me the best first impression. Especially from somebody, who's totally new to this forum, and has only very few suggestions on what to change, most of them not even very different from the current set of stats. :roll: "
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you're right, i didn't want to be impolite.
perhaps it isn't that easy to give an objective proposal if you prefer a special team.
by the way, yesterday steinhöfer make 2 assists with his crosses... ;-)

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby scr1899 » 2009 Dec 30, 13:59

On loan at Lautern

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby monKevski » 2009 Dec 30, 14:04

Just look at the transfer thread, therefore we have this thread. ;)
There I also post some other transfers already done.

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby royvd » 2011 Nov 28, 08:36

Is SB his main position at Basel? How is he doing in terms of STA?

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby KeyserSoze » 2011 Nov 28, 13:31

Good point... Yes, he's now playing mostly as RB and he certainly needs a boost in STA; 84 is a good number IMO.

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Re: Markus STEINHÖFER

Postby mracho » 2011 Nov 28, 21:43

Updated. ;)

(...) If his body is ahead of you, it's over, and even coming from behind he can easily force his way through. (...)
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Re: Markus Steinhöfer

Postby KeyserSoze » 2013 May 03, 20:42

He's the typical []Early Cross sideback. I don't know if someone watched him against Chelsea, but last night he put at least a couple of quality crosses from deep; one of them was with great pace towards Streller, who stroke the ball with an spectacular Jumping Volley... The ball just pass a few cm close to Cech's left post!!

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Re: Markus Steinhöfer

Postby PIPA23 » 2014 Jan 18, 15:15

moved him to TSV 1860 München and chainged his n. to 21 : http://www.tsv1860.de/aktuell/news/mark ... die-loewen

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