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Postby PES Stats Database » 2012 Aug 07, 00:14

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Aug 07, 13:26

I made a couple tweaks. @ Danger please keep in mind the ladders when making a players set. For example you had him on 77 for ATT. Thats on par with Marcelo of Real Madrid :? . Where also using new standards for MENT and TW. You had him on 80 for MENT, what did he show to deserve such high number?

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby Danger » 2012 Aug 07, 14:45

You did well. :)
As for ATT do not forget that last season played in the attack, he currently plays as a defender of left field up Immense is its great quality! Remembering Fábio Coentrão and even Marcelo. Melgarejo can get to the line and crossed to his companions how to break the defense to make shots and assists. At least deserves a "75". At Top Speed ​​decreases too melgarejo a player is super fast! It is the fastest player of Benfica! "83" is too little! Melgarejo is a player "Raçudo" as they say in Portuguese, hence the MENT is 80.

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Aug 07, 15:00

Danger wrote:You did well. :)
As for ATT do not forget that last season played in the attack, he currently plays as a defender of left field up Immense is its great quality! Remembering Fábio Coentrão and even Marcelo. Melgarejo can get to the line and crossed to his companions how to break the defense to make shots and assists. At least deserves a "75". At Top Speed ​​decreases too melgarejo a player is super fast! It is the fastest player of Benfica! "83" is too little! Melgarejo is a player "Raçudo" as they say in Portuguese, hence the MENT is 80.

I know he played as a WF at Pacos. But his main posistion at Benfica now is SB. Ill take your word for it, i will encrease his TS. But 80 for MENT is over the top we have new standards. Only players with leadership qualities deserve yellow or higher.

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby Danger » 2012 Aug 07, 15:14

Yes, you're right.
Attention to weight / height are swapped

Height: 178 cm
Weight: 72 kg
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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby danyh » 2012 Aug 07, 15:46

I find his DA value too harsh, last year he glued the ball to his feet and shown amazing control of the ball, maybe a slight raise to yellows would be acceptable. Top speed is still too low IMO, 85/85 would do the trick.

About his Defence, I really think he's not proven himself enough, I would rate him with a 60 by now.

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby Danger » 2012 Aug 07, 17:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo0PNFpDrLQ&feature=related

Melgarejo to get the ideal perhaps deserved a better score in header and shot placement, as well as in Technique, maybe 81. ;)

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby R0dDiCk » 2012 Aug 07, 18:13

danyh wrote:I find his DA value too harsh, last year he glued the ball to his feet and shown amazing control of the ball, maybe a slight raise to yellows would be acceptable. Top speed is still too low IMO, 85/85 would do the trick.

About his Defence, I really think he's not proven himself enough, I would rate him with a 60 by now.


Agree. DA could go higher but DEF no where near 62, at least for now. I was thinking between 55/60.

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Aug 08, 18:09

I updated the set, because of the suggestions. Feel free to suggest some more changes in diffrent sets. Not only on the traditional top 3, please ;) .

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby LBO12 » 2012 Aug 10, 00:20

I agree with Tech 81. Since his earlier days in Paraguay he showed great first touch! Corinthians wanted him in those days

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Aug 10, 12:30

LBO12 wrote:I agree with Tech 81. Since his earlier days in Paraguay he showed great first touch! Corinthians wanted him in those days

I will update TECH to yellow, lets see how he starts the campaign. Then i will update :) .

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby JMVP » 2012 Aug 26, 10:19

I'd lower his TS, his not that fast over distances, and his definetly more agile than this. Stamina should also be raised imo.

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Aug 26, 10:50

JMVP wrote:I'd lower his TS, his not that fast over distances, and his definetly more agile than this. Stamina should also be raised imo.

I had his TS as 83, but people suggested a higher number. AGI 84/85? And STA 84? Something like that.

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby Danger » 2012 Sep 02, 21:17

Defence: 62/64 - has been fairly consistent in recent games!
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 79
Ball Controll: 81/82 - Good player the 1st touch, not to mention who knows how to hold the ball near the sideline
Response: 77/78 - Or more, Melgarejo makes nice cuts near the "great area"!
Explosive Power: 84
Top Speed: 84
Body Balance: 76/77
Stamina: 84
Atk Awareness: 2 - likes to attack whenever the game allows!

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Kicking Power: 82 - Melgarejo has an excellent shot, I think is being undervalued in this regard, do not forget last season
Teamwork: 78

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Sep 13, 11:46

Stop double posting in threads that have a lot of views anyway.

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby Luisao82 » 2012 Sep 13, 15:13

Danger,
I wouldn't touch his DEF until he starts showing on a more regular basis that he deserves a raise.

As for you definition of RESPONSE (makes nice cuts near the "great area"!), that may have to do with, but it's not exactly RESPONSE. I suppose you're talking about how well he appears inside the penalty box to connect to a pass or to finish?!
If I'm correct, than I won't lie to you: I don't know for sure what would the best combination be, but I suppose *Free Roaming and possibly an higher value for ATTACK should do the trick.

His LPA could see a small increase IMHO.
Also, after watching some more videos of him, I was inclined to give him *Incisive Run as well, but that has to be discussed.

By the way, why are you suggesting a 1 point decrease for TS?

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Sep 13, 15:28

I think we should wait some more. We only have watched a handful matches of Melgarejo as a defender. JVMP thinks he is slower then TS 85, Luisao82 doesnt, Danger thinks of a 84. I think we should just wait and see more matches. I do think his STA and AGI should be raised, but again lets wait a few more matches. Specially with RES values.

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby Luisao82 » 2012 Sep 13, 15:34

From what he showed at Paços de Ferreira, his current value for speed is accurate. Maybe he just seems slower because he's still adapting to the new team and routines.

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby Danger » 2012 Sep 13, 19:38

How much DEF i think even if they deserved an increase,
I thought it would be better down 1 point in TS because FernandoA13 and JMVP agree that 85 is too high, and maybe they are right, because 85 would be fair when he was at Pacos Ferreira, but as you said is fine with adaptation to Benfica have not seen a TS as high... 84 would be the most fair, 83 is too low! It seems to me that Fernando and JMVP are somewhat "addicted" to almost always bet the same numbers in most players (or is it 82 or 83), and these are clearly too low! With an 84 I think would all agree, at least for now...
What I meant as Response is the ability of the reaction Melgarejo in intercepting passes and loose balls at crucial times.
As for cards, I think he deserved the card Darting Run :)

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Re: MELGAREJO

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Sep 13, 21:24

Addicted? What the hell are you talking about? Me and JVMP try to emulate every player precisely. It seems to me that you just want to raise every Benfica player. Why dont you just do it at yours OF? And try to be more realistic here.

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