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Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby Heui » 2008 Dec 09, 18:45

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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jan 11, 23:14

Whose set of stats are these? Does he really need the *Penalties? Thought that was just assigned to people who take them well :?

Why is Rensing starting over him....I haven't been impressed with Rensing :P
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby mracho » 2009 Jan 12, 06:31

jmg721 wrote:Whose set of stats are these? Does he really need the *Penalties? Thought that was just assigned to people who take them well :?

He defo can take them well... if I'm not mistaken, he used to be the #1 taker at Leverkusen. ;)
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby Mariner » 2009 Jan 12, 13:57

Maybe he should get SA 60-70
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby Heui » 2009 Jan 12, 16:46

yes, SA in low 60's might be alright since he's a reliable Penalty taker
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby jorgebolano » 2009 Jan 13, 13:16

I agree. And yeah, his penalties are quite deadly. His record at kicker.de is 28/33.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jan 13, 13:28

Thanks JB...was looking for that stat.

Any thoughts on his stats?
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby Mariner » 2009 Jan 13, 13:31

Maybe Response down to about 86/87 and Condition to 8.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby Heui » 2009 Jan 13, 17:46

I don't know if his Responses are still that good, haven't seen anything from him after he left Leverkusen.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby jorgebolano » 2009 Jan 22, 15:14

Response can be lowered to maybe 86 and his Shot Acc needs to be increased. Shot Acc needs to be somewhere around 67 in my opinion.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Jan 22, 18:40

I think he once scored a peno and the opposition lobbed one straight over him before he got back. xD Or was that Lemmon?
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby Heui » 2009 Jan 22, 19:22

that's true in the famous 5:3 match against Schalke

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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Jan 23, 01:51

Heui wrote:that's true in the famous 5:3 match against Schalke


Great stuff!! I love the rivlary that existed with German keepers around that time. Or at least, it seemed like there was one.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby zebastian » 2009 Jun 15, 15:00

I think we can decrease his condition. 7 is enough for me.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby clinon » 2009 Jun 15, 15:01

And remove Penalty Stopper*.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Sep 21, 09:28

*penalty stopper can be removed
*penalty can be removed.

He shot his last Penalty at leverkusen that`s years ago.

KS - 84 is too high - he isn`t on this level anymore.
83 or 82 is enough

and Response on 84 - 86 is to much.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby winkel » 2009 Sep 21, 17:23

Strainge proposition, he at last time play great in Bayern[ i wrote about last 3-4 games].
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Sep 22, 05:47

He make a good job, but also some mistakes at the end of the last sason, and he isn`t one of the best GKs at Bundesliga.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby winkel » 2009 Sep 22, 07:52

Maybe. In my opinion he can play like Adler or neuner [he Was in final o CL - this is worth sth].
In last season all players in Bayern play poor. I'll be waiting to end of this round, and estimate him after 17 matches.
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Re: Hans-Jörg BUTT

Postby s-cobar » 2009 Sep 22, 08:01

I can wait - but I think his stats represents him in his leverkusen time. I think he`s a good goalie but nothing special, more on the level like a Tremmel or a Eilhoff.
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